Klomp Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 21 minutes ago, SemperFeist said: For me it was the drop by Thielen (the first time) and the poor throw by Keenum to Diggs. While the 3 plays you pointed out were uncharacteristic of our team, they were very good plays made by the Panthers. You cannot say the same about the others. The Panthers did not defend those plays, they didn’t do anything to cause the incompletions, poor plays on our part were the reasons. With those two plays, we go into halftime with all of the momentum, and the lead. And making the other play would have also given us the lead with roughly 3 minutes to go, completely changing the game. Fair point about momentum, but it was a 1-point game at half. Not sure it made that big a difference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SemperFeist Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 3 minutes ago, Klomp said: Fair point about momentum, but it was a 1-point game at half. Not sure it made that big a difference We missed out on 4 points. That was huge. Also, taking that momentum into the locker room on the road would have been huge. Instead we gave Carolina, and their fans, the momentum after holding us to a field goal and keeping the lead. We left 7 points, that should have been gimmes, on the field. And that was the difference in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vike daddy Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 ball only bounced our way once today - the tipped pass to Sendejo. too many mistakes from most every unit (except special teams, they did well), receivers' hands that have always been reliable were not, and the defense giving up those two 60 yard runs. Keenum made several errors and several good plays. he was part of the loss but certainly not the sole cause by any means. we shrug it off and fight another day. all of the above are recoverable mistakes, but we do have to wonder about Reiff's status now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vike daddy Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 Zimmer: "We didn't play good enough to win." Keenum: "I'm looking to start another win streak." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nzd07 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 McKinnon - 7 for 46 Murray - 9 for 14 what happened to the 'hot hand' approach? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vike daddy Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 Keenum complete passes to 10 different receivers today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingsrule Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 Kind of expected MN to drop one of two to Atlanta/Carolina road stretch. Three consecutive road games is tough, will be nice to get back to MN and close out the year with 3 more wins, this team needs it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vike daddy Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 1 hour ago, vike daddy said: Keenum completed passes to 10 different receivers today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingsrule Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 2 hours ago, SemperFeist said: We missed out on 4 points. That was huge. Also, taking that momentum into the locker room on the road would have been huge. Instead we gave Carolina, and their fans, the momentum after holding us to a field goal and keeping the lead. We left 7 points, that should have been gimmes, on the field. And that was the difference in the game. Let's not forget the ugly Rudolph drop. Would have put us around field goal range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perrynoid Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 Was working today so missed most of the game. Let's keep everything in perspective gentlemen: we can't win them all, and the other guys get paid to play too. Let's just hope we can regroup and play better the rest of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingsrule Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 1 minute ago, perrynoid said: Was working today so missed most of the game. Let's keep everything in perspective gentlemen: we can't win them all, and the other guys get paid to play too. Let's just hope we can regroup and play better the rest of the season. It's how the team lost that is troubling. Keenum took way too many sacks, hopefully the OL can get healthy. Keenum also threw some bad passes and made some bad decisions. The receivers didn't make the plays we are accustomed to seeing and look at the result, a poor game by Keenum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SemperFeist Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 2 hours ago, vike daddy said: Keenum complete passes to 10 different receivers today. I’d like to see the targets a little bit more spread around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freakish Mind Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 Order of blame #1 Defense #2 Offensive Line #3 Receivers with the dropsies I thought Keenum played good enough to win the game. Our run game seemed non existent. At this point, I'm not worried one bit. It was 3 road games in a row against all tough opponents. We are still sitting with basically a 2 game lead for the playoff bye. Our biggest opponent in the conference just lost their star player for the season. So it could be a lot worse for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolmonite26 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 Why are people coming CK'S defense in saying "he played well enough to win" 1) it's literally not true 2) it's a convenient way to shift the blame that could then be used anyway necessary; e.g. "the defense played well enough, Keenum just missed plays" Keenum had a bad game, it's ok, it's allowed to happen. Everyone saying that he didnt play well has also said he's earned the benefit of the doubt and shouldn't be bench. Just think it's weird, admitting he had a bad game doesn't take away what he's accomplished this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDBrocks Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 That's right. He didn't play well enough to win. In fact he had an opportunity to take the team down the field and didn't capitalize on it. The defense didn't play well enough to win, and neither did the offensive line. No one did. This was a player loss all the way around. Also, Cam is a freak, and he made plays against a Zimmer defense that he's never done before. There were several plays where Cam Newton is literally the only player in the league physically capable of making the plays that he did. Maybe Wentz could have. Specifically the sack escape for a TD, and the long run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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