Jimmy G Apology Thread

[ronjon1990]

22 hours ago, Tank4Drake said:

Outside of growing pains, he’s likely already better. There are tons of throws AOC can sling that Jimmy can’t. 

Reminder to the McDaniels acolytes that their supposed savior QB was, just about 1 year ago, in a legitimate QB battle with Trey Lance. 

Correction: the 49ers were totally willing to let Jimmy G not play last year in favor of Trey Lance. 

[Tank4Drake]

3 minutes ago, ronjon1990 said:

Reminder to the McDaniels acolytes that their supposed savior QB was, just about 1 year ago, in a legitimate QB battle with Trey Lance. 

Correction: the 49ers were totally willing to let Jimmy G not play last year in favor of Trey Lance. 

Wouldn’t have been any different with Carr if he was on the 49ers, sorry to burst your bubble. Purdy is better than both, clearly. 

[Frankie2Gunz]

3 hours ago, Tank4Drake said:

Hoping to see AoC at some point. And I’m much more lenient with young guys. Carr and Jimmy are vets and should not be making so many mistakes, and playing so subpar. 

Agreed, both Jimmy G and Carr have not played well at all.  Both below average through two games. 

[ronjon1990]

3 hours ago, Tank4Drake said:

Wouldn’t have been any different with Carr if he was on the 49ers, sorry to burst your bubble. Purdy is better than both, clearly. 

No bubble to burst as I never mentioned he who shall not be named. 

Whether an unamed individual would or would not have been better in Shanahan's system is entirely irrelevant to the point that Jimmy had trouble separating himself from Trey Lance. 

For those who don't believe (incorrectly) that Jimmy was a high priority target for Josh and Dave, it probably doesn't matter, because nothing will get through to them about the quality (or rather, lack thereof) of the job they've done. 

For those who recognize that Jimmy was going to be the target all along because Josh reverts to remedial QB play to save his *** like a fish out of water, it repeats the pattern seen in Denver:

Jay Cutler wasn't great in Denver or Chicago. Moving on from Jay Cutler wasn't a bad idea. How moving on from Jay Cutler went down and who Josh hung his hat on (Kyle Orton) prior to drafting the questionable guy to roll with long term (Tim Tebow) was the problem. But, we'll go one better- it's documented that Orton wasn't even really McDaniels' first choice, Matt Cassel was. That was his grand plan all along, he just couldn't get him, putting the cart before the horse. 

He who shall not be named wasn't great in Vegas and hasn't been great in New Orleans. Moving on from the unnamed individual wasn't a bad idea. How moving on from said unnamed individual went down and who Josh hung his hat on (Jimmy) prior to drafting the QB to roll with long term is the problem. But we'll go one better- it's being argued that Jimmy wasn't even really McDaniels' first choice, Tom Brady was. That was his grand plan all along, he just couldn't get him, putting the cart before the horse. 

[Jeremy408]

16 minutes ago, ronjon1990 said:

No bubble to burst as I never mentioned he who shall not be named. 

Whether an unamed individual would or would not have been better in Shanahan's system is entirely irrelevant to the point that Jimmy had trouble separating himself from Trey Lance. 

For those who don't believe (incorrectly) that Jimmy was a high priority target for Josh and Dave, it probably doesn't matter, because nothing will get through to them about the quality (or rather, lack thereof) of the job they've done. 

For those who recognize that Jimmy was going to be the target all along because Josh reverts to remedial QB play to save his *** like a fish out of water, it repeats the pattern seen in Denver:

Jay Cutler wasn't great in Denver or Chicago. Moving on from Jay Cutler wasn't a bad idea. How moving on from Jay Cutler went down and who Josh hung his hat on (Kyle Orton) prior to drafting the questionable guy to roll with long term (Tim Tebow) was the problem. But, we'll go one better- it's documented that Orton wasn't even really McDaniels' first choice, Matt Cassel was. That was his grand plan all along, he just couldn't get him, putting the cart before the horse. 

He who shall not be named wasn't great in Vegas and hasn't been great in New Orleans. Moving on from the unnamed individual wasn't a bad idea. How moving on from said unnamed individual went down and who Josh hung his hat on (Jimmy) prior to drafting the QB to roll with long term is the problem. But we'll go one better- it's being argued that Jimmy wasn't even really McDaniels' first choice, Tom Brady was. That was his grand plan all along, he just couldn't get him, putting the cart before the horse. 

I wonder what would've happened if Josh McDaniels ended up with Andrew Luck(whoops I meant if the medical staff was to his liking)

Edited September 24, 2023 by Jeremy408

[ronjon1990]

22 minutes ago, Jeremy408 said:

I wonder what would've happened if Josh McDaniels ended up with Andrew Luck(whoops I meant if the medical staff was to his liking)

Andrew Luck probably sees the roster ideas he cobbles together and retires a year earlier lol. 

[raidr4life]

1 hour ago, ronjon1990 said:

 Jimmy had trouble separating himself from Trey Lance. 

This is just false Lance couldn't separate himself from a paper bag. They spent a #3 overall pick to try and upgrade and he is now on another team. 

[ronjon1990]

Just now, raidr4life said:

This is just false Lance couldn't separate himself from a paper bag. They spent a #3 overall pick to try and upgrade and he is now on another team. 

And that makes Jimmy not being able to soundly beat him out false how, exactly?

[raidr4life]

2 hours ago, ronjon1990 said:

And that makes Jimmy not being able to soundly beat him out false how, exactly?

He was drafted 3rd overall you think they weren't going to start him? Jimmy was coming off of back to back injury shortened seasons so they drafted a QB top 5, It was Lance's job to lose and he lost it. Lance looked like trash got hurt and Jimmy led them to the playoffs thats soundly beating him out. Now Lance has been traded to a team where the starter has several years left in him after the niners gave him every opportunity to show something.

[ronjon1990]

1 hour ago, raidr4life said:

He was drafted 3rd overall you think they weren't going to start him? Jimmy was coming off of back to back injury shortened seasons so they drafted a QB top 5, It was Lance's job to lose and he lost it. Lance looked like trash got hurt and Jimmy led them to the playoffs thats soundly beating him out. Now Lance has been traded to a team where the starter has several years left in him after the niners gave him every opportunity to show something.

Tell me you practice revisionist history without telling me you practice revisionist history. 

The 9ers weren't pressed to start the #3 pick from day one, Jimmy lost his starting gig plain and simple. No way the 9ers were going to just bounce from Jimmy unless they were initially convinced by what they saw from Lance. 

It took Lance being injured for them to turn back to Jimmy, and Lance wasn't even good. He was so not even good that the 9ers cut bait in a hurry. But Jimmy taking over for an injured QB isn't "beating him out", it's taking over for an injured QB. If Aidan O'Connell steps in for Jimmy when Jimmy comes up with a bone spur or something, and then Jimmy is still naked the starter for 2025, O'Connell will not have "beaten" Jimmy out for the job, and decidedly not "soundly".

In early 2022, the 9ers were actively trying to get rid of Jimmy and only brought him back because literally nobody would take him. A playoff QB having zero trade market says all that needs to be said. Whatever he did while Lance was out wasn't enough for them to give two craps about keeping him around. It's just another case of a Raiders regime hoping some other team's trash is their treasure. 

[raidr4life]

8 hours ago, ronjon1990 said:

Tell me you practice revisionist history without telling me you practice revisionist history. 

The 9ers weren't pressed to start the #3 pick from day one, Jimmy lost his starting gig plain and simple. No way the 9ers were going to just bounce from Jimmy unless they were initially convinced by what they saw from Lance. 

It took Lance being injured for them to turn back to Jimmy, and Lance wasn't even good. He was so not even good that the 9ers cut bait in a hurry. But Jimmy taking over for an injured QB isn't "beating him out", it's taking over for an injured QB. If Aidan O'Connell steps in for Jimmy when Jimmy comes up with a bone spur or something, and then Jimmy is still naked the starter for 2025, O'Connell will not have "beaten" Jimmy out for the job, and decidedly not "soundly".

In early 2022, the 9ers were actively trying to get rid of Jimmy and only brought him back because literally nobody would take him. A playoff QB having zero trade market says all that needs to be said. Whatever he did while Lance was out wasn't enough for them to give two craps about keeping him around. It's just another case of a Raiders regime hoping some other team's trash is their treasure. 

If you think Trey Lance beat out Jimmy G in an open competition I don't know what to tell you. Lance proved to be trash before he got injured. The niners kept holding out hope since the spent a top 3 pick. Show me a team who picks a QB top 3 and doesn't start them. They wanted to move on from Jimmy because of cost and injuries not because Lance beat him at anything.

[Justwinning]

At this point I think Jimmy should apologize to us.

[Totty]

QB purgatory.

[MrOaktown_56]

I think he needs to apologize to us for making us watch him play

[Jerry]

We should either tank this season or roll with AOC. Jimmy G isn’t it. I hate watching him play. I knew he was a product of the NE and 49er systems. He can’t elevate a roster. Just can’t do it.