Chiefer Posted October 16, 2023 Author Share Posted October 16, 2023 1 hour ago, NYJets4716 said: Yup, a lot of the leagues "elite" QBs aren't playing at the level we have seen when Brees, Manning, Brady, and Rodgers were lighting up the league. but is that because Defenses are catching up to the high octane passing attack? Like they’ve finally adjusted to the Manning/Brady rule changes and the new age offenses? I’ve always believed in cycles, with everything geared towards the pass now it’s advantageous to pivot to YAC/Running game + Good Defense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malik Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 It's easily the Browns. The percentage of drives against the Browns that end in touchdowns is 18.8%! The next closest is 24.6% with the Chiefs. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlowe22 Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 19 hours ago, Forge said: I'd take the Steelers out and include the saints. Feel like new Orleans is being slept on. I want to agree with you. But we've played a handful of the worst offenses in the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJC33 Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 11 hours ago, Malik said: It's easily the Browns. The percentage of drives against the Browns that end in touchdowns is 18.8%! The next closest is 24.6% with the Chiefs. The New York Jets defense has allowed a touchdown on just 8/59 drives faced this season (13.6%) https://x.com/PFF_Jets/status/1711389582455906333?s=20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetzger Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 Browns are #1 in yards AND points allowed per drive against them, and are allowing a tiny 3.8 yards per play. It’s them so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSURacerDT55 Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 (edited) On 10/17/2023 at 6:57 AM, Jlowe22 said: Feel like new Orleans is being slept on. Something about this just doesn't sit right with me.... Also what's crazy about the Browns is that we are like last in turnovers despite everything else. I imagine that number is going to go up with who we have coming up on our schedule. Edited October 19, 2023 by MSURacerDT55 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 On 10/17/2023 at 3:57 AM, Jlowe22 said: I want to agree with you. But we've played a handful of the worst offenses in the league. Touche, you may have been right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlowe22 Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 4 hours ago, Forge said: Touche, you may have been right I think it's a good solid defense that doesn't get many favors from the offense. But in company with the best in the league, I doubt it. I'd love to be wrong though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Reed Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 The Ravens have allowed 6 TDs in 7 games They lead the league in sacks They’ve played most of the season without Humphrey, Marcus Williams, and their two starting edge rushers They Ravens are in the discussion for best in the league. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefer Posted October 23, 2023 Author Share Posted October 23, 2023 27 minutes ago, Ray Reed said: The Ravens have allowed 6 TDs in 7 games They lead the league in sacks They’ve played most of the season without Humphrey, Marcus Williams, and their two starting edge rushers They Ravens are in the discussion for best in the league. Yup they finally played a good offense and clamped em, I’m thoroughly impressed, Ravens are probably the best right now Chiefs still haven’t allowed 20 points to opposing offenses, and they’ve played a few good offenses at this point. losing Nick Bolton is the suck though, Tranquil seems to be up for the job Browns got scored on by Indy, just gonna chalk it up to Minshew-mania? Myles Garrett is in the DPOTY discussion, but the defense might not be the best in 50 years. 9ers have almost all their pieces on Defense and will continue to be excellent Jets just shut down elite QBs it’s fun to watch Steelers look great since that week one drubbing they got from the 9ers, TJ Watt is also right in the DPOTY mix Are the Cowboys/Bills gonna rebound from the injuries to their respective defenses? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Reed Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 17 minutes ago, Chiefer said: Yup they finally played a good offense and clamped em, I’m thoroughly impressed, Ravens are probably the best right now Chiefs still haven’t allowed 20 points to opposing offenses, and they’ve played a few good offenses at this point. losing Nick Bolton is the suck though, Tranquil seems to be up for the job Browns got scored on by Indy, just gonna chalk it up to Minshew-mania? Myles Garrett is in the DPOTY discussion, but the defense might not be the best in 50 years. 9ers have almost all their pieces on Defense and will continue to be excellent Jets just shut down elite QBs it’s fun to watch Steelers look great since that week one drubbing they got from the 9ers, TJ Watt is also right in the DPOTY mix Are the Cowboys/Bills gonna rebound from the injuries to their respective defenses? Yeah it was concerning to see the Colts drop 38 on the Browns. The Ravens gave up 22 points to the Colts in 5 quarters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFlaccoSeagulls Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 18 minutes ago, Chiefer said: Yup they finally played a good offense and clamped em, I’m thoroughly impressed, Ravens are probably the best right now Chiefs still haven’t allowed 20 points to opposing offenses, and they’ve played a few good offenses at this point. losing Nick Bolton is the suck though, Tranquil seems to be up for the job Browns got scored on by Indy, just gonna chalk it up to Minshew-mania? Myles Garrett is in the DPOTY discussion, but the defense might not be the best in 50 years. 9ers have almost all their pieces on Defense and will continue to be excellent Jets just shut down elite QBs it’s fun to watch Steelers look great since that week one drubbing they got from the 9ers, TJ Watt is also right in the DPOTY mix Are the Cowboys/Bills gonna rebound from the injuries to their respective defenses? Feels like the Browns defense is really just smoke and mirrors. They've played bad competition, had one fluky game against SF where they looked elite, but overall I think they're feasting on bad competition and aren't as good as the numbers indicate. Ravens defense is actually legit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Reed Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 1 hour ago, AFlaccoSeagulls said: Feels like the Browns defense is really just smoke and mirrors. They've played bad competition, had one fluky game against SF where they looked elite, but overall I think they're feasting on bad competition and aren't as good as the numbers indicate. Ravens defense is actually legit. I’ll be very surprised if the Browns defense finishes ahead of the Ravens in most of the major statistical categories once all 17 have been played. I’ll just leave it at that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MSURacerDT55 Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 (edited) 22 hours ago, Ray Reed said: Yeah it was concerning to see the Colts drop 38 on the Browns. The Ravens gave up 22 points to the Colts in 5 quarters. You fail to mention 4 sacks, 3 fumbles, 1 int, and a defensive TD. Meaning if you took the Browns defense in fantasy, you got 18 points, if you took the Ravens, you only got 15. In addition to winning games without Nick Chubb and having a 3rd string QB, Thanks for the call.... Edited October 24, 2023 by MSURacerDT55 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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