NYRaider Posted November 29, 2023 Author Share Posted November 29, 2023 7 hours ago, Dessie said: Have I missed something ? Weren’t you the one pounding the table for Jimmy G and started the Jimmy G apology thread after game 1 ? I must have been hacked 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaidersForever Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 Either do whatever it takes to get Drake Maye in Silver and Black, or sign Baker and fortify the O-line and defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronjon1990 Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 I'm assuming we're stuck with Jimmy G on the roster for at least next year, so bringing in a vet presence isn't necessary. Depends on our HC/OC. It sucks, because we have Jimmy and Aiden, one is a corpse, the other a statue. Almost no matter who we pick, there's nothing that pick is going to learn from our rostered QBs game-wise. To answer, give me McCarthy or Penix for now- they strike me as the some of the better QBs in structure/pocket that might actually get something out of who we already have. But I'm not super beholden to any single guy. It sucks not knowing what our offensive identity is meant to be going forward yet though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darbsk Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 On 11/28/2023 at 4:31 PM, NYRaider said: Who do you want to be our starting QB, the most realistic options seem to be: On Roster Jimmy Garoppolo Aidan O'Connell Free Agents Kirk Cousins Baker Mayfield Josh Dobbs Ryan Tannehill Jameis Winston Gardner Minshew Draft Caleb Williams Drake Maye JJ McCarthy Jayden Daniels Michael Penix Jr Bo Nix Trade Justin Fields Kyler Murray Oof goodness there’s some pretty dodgy guys there. I’m fine with bringing in guys like Tannehill or Fields to compete for a backup role but if they’re starting you’re in trouble. With AOC already here then only really a rookie or Cousins seems like a decent upgrade to me. Wouldn’t touch Murray as I simply don’t like him nor his attitude. Anathema to the ‘New Raiders’ embodied by Maxx Crosby. I’d almost certainly try and trade up for one of the top prospects. All the rest outside of Cousins seem like very average bridge guys similar to Garoppolo (or what he was supposed to be). I’d have to look into the draft QBs more before giving a definitive answer to which one honestly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted November 29, 2023 Author Share Posted November 29, 2023 18 minutes ago, ronjon1990 said: Almost no matter who we pick, there's nothing that pick is going to learn from our rostered QBs game-wise. Jimmy G learned under the greatest of all time for years and was with another offensive GOAT in Shanahan, I'm sure he has a lot to offer a young developing QB. Do you think veterans teach QB's by showing them how to play the game? lmfao Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucksavage1 Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 40 minutes ago, NYRaider said: Jimmy G learned under the greatest of all time for years and was with another offensive GOAT in Shanahan, I'm sure he has a lot to offer a young developing QB. Do you think veterans teach QB's by showing them how to play the game? lmfao I agree. Jimmy is reportedly a very good locker room presence and has no issues being a backup That said, we will be able to trade him in the offseason. The backup QB market in the NFL is dire. Jimmy still has lots of value as he still is more competent than some of the dreck is across the league as backups. Joe Flacco , Mullins and Tim Boyle are about to get some starts 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucksavage1 Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 What about Winston? Can’t imagine he’s back in NO as they are stuck with Carr Dude is the Russian roulette of QBs but he’s better than Jimmy and has mobility. He’s incredibly turnover prone though but is still somehow productive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darbsk Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 20 hours ago, NYRaider said: Bust rate is huge no matter where you pick…….. initially surprising to me honestly, but when I think about it, seems about right. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronjon1990 Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 3 hours ago, NYRaider said: Jimmy G learned under the greatest of all time for years and was with another offensive GOAT in Shanahan, I'm sure he has a lot to offer a young developing QB. Do you think veterans teach QB's by showing them how to play the game? lmfao No. Do you still think your Jimmydoodle is a dawg? Or have you flip flopped on that, too, as with everything else? Not lmfao. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted November 30, 2023 Author Share Posted November 30, 2023 2 hours ago, ronjon1990 said: No. Do you still think your Jimmydoodle is a dawg? Or have you flip flopped on that, too, as with everything else? Not lmfao. Jimmy can teach JJ how to be a dawg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted November 30, 2023 Author Share Posted November 30, 2023 4 hours ago, Darbsk said: Bust rate is huge no matter where you pick…….. initially surprising to me honestly, but when I think about it, seems about right. It highlights the importance of going QB early, in the top 10 you have a 29% chance of drafting a franchise guy, 8% chance of drafting a good QB, and an 8% chance of drafting an average QB. So it's essentially a 50-50 shot you'll land an average/good/franchise level guy vs a bust. Drafting a QB outside of the top 10 you have a 4% chance of hitting on a franchise guy, an 0.009% chance of drafting a good QB, a 6% chance of drafting an average QB, and a 90% chance of drafting a guy that never pans out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolni Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 I fully expect Jimmy to be a designated post June 1 cut early March. AOC will be the only returning QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dessie Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 1 hour ago, Rolni said: I fully expect Jimmy to be a designated post June 1 cut early March. AOC will be the only returning QB. What’s the difference in money if we cut him post June 1st, we push some money to 2025? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronjon1990 Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 9 hours ago, NYRaider said: Jimmy can teach JJ how to be a dawg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronjon1990 Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 9 hours ago, NYRaider said: Jimmy can teach JJ how to be a dawg You get hacked again or nah? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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