Worm Guts Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 3 minutes ago, JDBrocks said: Nah. I think this is something that you can look at in a vacuum. A miss is a miss, and it stands out on tape. If you're someone who has some context with that, maybe. For most of us, no. I mean last night, on one drive I watched Derek Carr throw a bad pass to an open receiver, not identify an open receiver, almost throw an interception, then fumble out of the back of the end zone on an unnecessary reach. And that's supposed to be a franchise QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SemperFeist Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 Just now, Worm Guts said: I mean last night, on one drive I watched Derek Carr throw a bad pass to an open receiver, not identify an open receiver, almost throw an interception, then fumble out of the back of the end zone on an unnecessary reach. And that's supposed to be a franchise QB. And you don’t think Oakland fans, or coaches, are upset, concerned, or critical of his play? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vike daddy Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 Keenum was 20 of 23 (86.9%) for 236 yards, two touchdowns and no interceptions, a performance that generated a 138.4 passer rating. It’s the sixth game in which Keenum has authored a triple-digit passer rating and the fifth such performance in the last six weeks. http://www.vikings.com/news/article-1/10-Takeaways-from-Sundays-Win-Over-Cincinnati/f9450e90-f530-427a-87e7-ddb2f550c197?sf176645001=1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SemperFeist Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 The efficiency at which Shurmur has got this offense running is impressive. I’d like to see running game pick it up a bit, however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gopherwrestler Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 2 minutes ago, SemperFeist said: The efficiency at which Shurmur has got this offense running is impressive. I’d like to see running game pick it up a bit, however. This is the whole point of his offense. Was like this everywhere he has been. Really isn't the big plays, but to keep the ball moving down the field. Get the ball out of the QB's hands and into it's playmakers in space. This type of offense relies on a strong defense and a running game working. The running game is working and we do well. I agree tho, I'd like to see the running game to pick up even more also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vikes_Bolts1228 Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 3 minutes ago, SemperFeist said: The efficiency at which Shurmur has got this offense running is impressive. I’d like to see running game pick it up a bit, however. I'd like to think a lot of that has to do with the current state of the o-line. The run game was A LOT better with Elf not on the shelf. But you're right....we're going to need a stronger run game in the playoffs. It'll be nice to be able to get to 2nd down and mid instead of 2nd and 9-13. It'll also be nice to be able to run the ball in the early 4th quarter in a playoff game and take 5-6 minutes off the clock in a drive with the lead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vike daddy Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 1 minute ago, Vikes_Bolts1228 said: The run game was A LOT better with Elf not on the shelf. oh that's a good one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worm Guts Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 2 minutes ago, Vikes_Bolts1228 said: I'd like to think a lot of that has to do with the current state of the o-line. The run game was A LOT better with Elf not on the shelf. But you're right....we're going to need a stronger run game in the playoffs. It'll be nice to be able to get to 2nd down and mid instead of 2nd and 9-13. It'll also be nice to be able to run the ball in the early 4th quarter in a playoff game and take 5-6 minutes off the clock in a drive with the lead. To be honest, I'm surprised our run game has been as effective as it has been. Both McKinnon and Murray are pretty average backs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vike daddy Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 i didn't see any of the game yesterday (traveling) just the highlights and stats. what was with all the penalties? what was going on there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SemperFeist Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 11 minutes ago, vike daddy said: i didn't see any of the game yesterday (traveling) just the highlights and stats. what was with all the penalties? what was going on there? Dumb mistakes. I think there was a point in the game where the team was getting a little unfocused. We were so far ahead, that a little complacency set in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 1 hour ago, Worm Guts said: I would hope they do. It just seem to me there has been an unusual focus on Keenum's mistakes in this forum compared to other players. From my experience, it seems that this forum does an excellent job of tearing every players performance to shreds. With special attention given to quarterbacks, offensive linemen and cornerbacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelKing728 Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 8 hours ago, Freakish Mind said: Yep, you are right, he missed that play. Probably 95% of the starting QB's would have missed that play if they see McKinnon as wide open as he was. The progression would have stopped right there. Don't QBs read deep to short though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gnat Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 1 minute ago, SteelKing728 said: Don't QBs read deep to short though? I think it depends on the play, often comes with certain WR's first or certain routes first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gopherwrestler Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 7 minutes ago, SteelKing728 said: Don't QBs read deep to short though? No. Could be a backside post on a roll out, or pocket slide due to protection and that would not be the first read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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