General Tso Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 Who are guys who, if they retired in 2022 wouldn't be in HOF but their season is elevating them to HOF this season? Tyreek Hill - If he just retired after 2022, he'd probably be in the HOF. But he's most likely the OPOY this year and some are even arguing MVP and we see how he elevates an offense. Mike Evans - The longevity of 10 years straight of 1k yards. Admittedly he has less total stats than guys like Holt and Wayne who have been semifinalists, so this can go either way. Jason Kelce - Not sure if this was in debate, but I foresee another AP selection for him. TJ Watt - IF he wins DPOY, anyone who wins multiple DPOY is in the HOF or is on their way (Aaron Donald) Already HOF (in my opinion) Patrick Mahomes Aaron Donald Travis Kelce Zack Martin Tyron Smith Von Miller Aaron Rodgers Patrick Peterson Bobby Wagner Trent Williams 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stl4life07 Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 Matthew Stafford. I think what he is doing this season is just as great as what he did in his Superbowl run. To take a team where its totally dependent on YOU being ELITE and you are ELITE possibly going to make the playoffs is amazing. What most dont know is the Rams werent even looking at this season as being anything but development from the young guys, the older guys like Stafford, Kupp, Donald just have this team competitive enough, and then in the 2024 offseason go for it all again and try to open up the Superbowl window again. So Stafford literally dragged this team to where it is now. IF the Rams miss the playoffs its going to be the one game he didnt play and the Rams lost which was the Packers game. Most will agree that if he had played that game the Rams wouldve won. Plus most people said coming into the season that he was washed. He has shown he is far from washed. So again I think that if he didnt validate a HOF after what he did in his Superbowl year I think he is going to validate it this season on what he is doing on this version of the Rams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngusMcFife Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 Brock Purdy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngusMcFife Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 53 minutes ago, General Tso said: Already HOF (in my opinion) Patrick Mahomes Aaron Donald Travis Kelce Zack Martin Tyron Smith Von Miller Aaron Rodgers Patrick Peterson Bobby Wagner Trent Williams Peterson IMO is questionable as an HOF candidate. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngusMcFife Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 1 hour ago, General Tso said: Who are guys who, if they retired in 2022 wouldn't be in HOF but their season is elevating them to HOF this season? Tyreek Hill - If he just retired after 2022, he'd probably be in the HOF. But he's most likely the OPOY this year and some are even arguing MVP and we see how he elevates an offense. Mike Evans - The longevity of 10 years straight of 1k yards. Admittedly he has less total stats than guys like Holt and Wayne who have been semifinalists, so this can go either way. Jason Kelce - Not sure if this was in debate, but I foresee another AP selection for him. TJ Watt - IF he wins DPOY, anyone who wins multiple DPOY is in the HOF or is on their way (Aaron Donald) I never saw Mike Evans as a HOF WR. Zero (0) All-Pros testifies to the fact that he never had a dominant peak, but has been good/very good on a consistent basis. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soko Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 1 hour ago, stl4life07 said: To take a team where its totally dependent on YOU being ELITE and you are ELITE possibly going to make the playoffs is amazing. lol 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 36 minutes ago, AngusMcFife said: I never saw Mike Evans as a HOF WR. Zero (0) All-Pros testifies to the fact that he never had a dominant peak, but has been good/very good on a consistent basis. He's the frank gore of receivers. I do expect him to get in though 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notthatbluestuff Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 1 hour ago, stl4life07 said: Matthew Stafford. I think what he is doing this season is just as great as what he did in his Superbowl run. To take a team where its totally dependent on YOU being ELITE and you are ELITE possibly going to make the playoffs is amazing. What most dont know is the Rams werent even looking at this season as being anything but development from the young guys, the older guys like Stafford, Kupp, Donald just have this team competitive enough, and then in the 2024 offseason go for it all again and try to open up the Superbowl window again. So Stafford literally dragged this team to where it is now. IF the Rams miss the playoffs its going to be the one game he didnt play and the Rams lost which was the Packers game. Most will agree that if he had played that game the Rams wouldve won. Plus most people said coming into the season that he was washed. He has shown he is far from washed. So again I think that if he didnt validate a HOF after what he did in his Superbowl year I think he is going to validate it this season on what he is doing on this version of the Rams. If Stafford wasn't in HOF discussions already, I'm not sure this particular season would be moving the needle in that regard. Like I don't see why 2023 of all years is going to put his case over the top. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 4 minutes ago, notthatbluestuff said: If Stafford wasn't in HOF discussions already, I'm not sure this particular season would be moving the needle in that regard. Like I don't see why 2023 of all years is going to put his case over the top. Stafford has no all pros, one pro bowl, one comeback player trophy, no other hardware. He won the super bowl , but didn't get super bowl MVP. The bulk stats are fun, but will grow less meaningful. Pfr has his Hof monitor about 30% lower than the average Hof QB. I do not think at this very moment he's going to get a strong push for hall of fame, though the career isn't over, so who knows 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFlaccoSeagulls Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 Mike Evans not having those accolades is just a product of him playing with bad QB's most of his career. He's put up insanely good numbers and is extremely underrated. I do like the comp of him being the Frank Gore of RB's. He deserves to get in IMO. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackstar12 Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 Myles Garrett. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OkeyDoke21 Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 (edited) It's too early to put him just based off of this year, but I think this year has pushed McCaffrey into the fold where he really wasn't there prior. If he adds a rushing crown and a ring, his case is going to be a conversation, with a probable 1st team all-pro and 20 tds. Might pick up an MVP vote with a strong finish. I don't know how modern RB bulk stat standards are going to be viewed, by the time he is eligible, but the peak years will be there. A great post season run would go a long way for him. If he goes '19 Derrick Henry, and they finish the job, I think he's going to be viewed as a HoF'er. Edited December 20, 2023 by OkeyDoke21 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OkeyDoke21 Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 Lamar could, depending on how it plays out. A 2nd MVP and a ring elevates him into a different tier. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob_shadows Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 24 minutes ago, Forge said: Stafford has no all pros, one pro bowl, one comeback player trophy, no other hardware. He won the super bowl , but didn't get super bowl MVP. The bulk stats are fun, but will grow less meaningful. Pfr has his Hof monitor about 30% lower than the average Hof QB. I do not think at this very moment he's going to get a strong push for hall of fame, though the career isn't over, so who knows I think if by some miracle they go all the way and he gets another ring he's in but I really don't see that happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AkronsWitness Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 1 hour ago, AngusMcFife said: I never saw Mike Evans as a HOF WR. Zero (0) All-Pros testifies to the fact that he never had a dominant peak, but has been good/very good on a consistent basis. Throwing out rookie years, here is 1 WR who is nowhere close to the HOF compared to Mike Evans. Can you guess who it is?? WR Anonymous 9 seasons, 3 Pro Bowls, 2x All Pro, NFL receptions leader, 2x SB champion Receptions- 775 Yards- 10,488 TDs- 62 Mike Evans 9 seasons, 4 Pro Bowls, 0 All Pro, 1 SB champion Receptions- 681 Yards- 10,451 TDs- 80 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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