Duluther Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 24 minutes ago, EvilenFroggen said: No they didn’t. What about the Bucs makes it seem like they deserve anything other than what they have? .... This is the same nucleus that won a SB a couple years ago. They don't deserve a good QB? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iknowcool Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 (edited) 36 minutes ago, seminoles1 said: And over time, going for 2 outweighs just kicking extra points based on the success rates. Going for 2 also would have given them a chance to win, not just play for OT. But not every situation is equal. Something can generally be the better decision while also not being the best decision to make in that moment. Same reason the Bucs didn't go for it on 4th earlier in the game despite the math saying to do so. I know I can't argue against math. I just think sometimes a situation calls for a different decision. In the playoffs in that environment I'd rather take my chances on the road with 2 XPs than trying to convert 1 of 2 2 point conversions. Not like OT is sudden death anymore. Edited January 21 by iknowcool 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nagahide13 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Just re-watched the end of the game. It's pretty obvious that TB conceded and Goff is just kneeling it out when there's still 19 seconds on the playclock. It's not a thing. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jameson_Neat Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 9 minutes ago, nagahide13 said: Prior to that. Maybe the NFL is even involved. When they got the ball there was 1 min 37 seconds and the Bucs had 1 TO, which is enough to kill the game with plenty to spare. If this happened I'm going to have to assume it was a handshake type deal. Even if it was imposed by the league. I'd guess it was conceded before the series. I think Goff snapped the ball with 20 seconds on the play clock on 2nd down. "Huge error" lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nnivolcm Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 1 minute ago, Duluther said: .... This is the same nucleus that won a SB a couple years ago. They don't deserve a good QB? They got everything they deserve and more when Evans was voted into the Probowl! (This was not a serious post, just meant to troll the Probowl selection process) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seminoles1 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 1 minute ago, iknowcool said: But not every situation is equal. Something can generally be the better decision while also not being the best decision to make in that moment. I know I can't argue against math. I just think sometimes a situation calls for a different decision. In the playoffs in that environment I'd rather take my chances on the road with 2 XPs than trying to convert 1 of 2 2 point conversions. Not like OT is sudden death anymore. I agree with this. I even posted that I would have kicked it. I'm just defending the math behind the decision, and the decision to go for 2 on the first one and not waiting for the hypothetical second one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nbanflguy Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Just now, Jameson_Neat said: I'd guess it was conceded before the series. I think Goff snapped the ball with 20 seconds on the play clock on 2nd down. "Huge error" lol Doesn’t matter. That’s on the lions for not just taking the extra 20 seconds to be careful. At the end of the day the lions kneeled it on 3rd down with 30 seconds left and the Bucs had a time out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nnivolcm Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 2 minutes ago, nagahide13 said: Just re-watched the end of the game. It's pretty obvious that TB conceded and Goff is just kneeling it out when there's still 19 seconds on the playclock. It's not a thing. But you can imagine what it'd be like if they had. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nagahide13 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Just now, Nbanflguy said: Doesn’t matter. That’s on the lions for not just taking the extra 20 seconds to be careful. At the end of the day the lions kneeled it on 3rd down with 30 seconds left and the Bucs had a time out And they didn't use it, which points towards an agreement and an "it doesn't matter" the other way. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilenFroggen Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 3 minutes ago, Duluther said: .... This is the same nucleus that won a SB a couple years ago. They don't deserve a good QB? 4000 yards, 28 TDs to 10 picks is pretty good. They sold it for Brady and Arians and this is what they’re left with. I’d say Baker did pretty good with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nbanflguy Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Just now, nagahide13 said: And they didn't use it, which points towards an agreement and an "it doesn't matter" the other way. And Bowles can now go back on the agreement and try to give his team a chance to win. This is the playoffs. Not recess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soko Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Have to imagine that after the season that they had that Baker and Evans are back next year. Imagine they keep Winfield too. Go Lions! Happy for either team next week in the NFCCG. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFlaccoSeagulls Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 That was a better game than I thought it was going to be. Baker really did ball out all the way until that last play, which was unfortunte and a great play by the DET linebacker. Lions vs. Niners is gonna be good 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 1 hour ago, iknowcool said: Just think it’s not smart to put yourself in a position where now you have to convert a 2 point just to tie the game. Especially on the road in this environment I’m sure you or anyone could give me all the numbers that show I’m wrong. But in that situation I don’t think it is worth the risk. Not in the playoffs. I've no idea what the analytics say there. However, I also think that shortening the game as an underdog is always the right move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TL-TwoWinsAway Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 (edited) 2 hours ago, nagahide13 said: Just re-watched the end of the game. It's pretty obvious that TB conceded and Goff is just kneeling it out when there's still 19 seconds on the playclock. It's not a thing. What in the hell is "conceding" in a football game when you have the ability to potentially get the ball back, down by one score? How can we act like that's either normal or acceptable? Edited January 22 by TL-TwoWinsAway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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