squire12 Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 4 minutes ago, 49ersfan said: Bosa just said stopping on the 1st 4th down was the turning point in an interview on ESPN You take the (likely) 3 points, go up 27-10 & its a completely different game. You have to take game script into account. Make it and its a 17 point game with like 22 minutes left in the game. It became a 7 point game with like 18 mins left. We stopped them and the momentum completely changed I think coaches need to adapt to the moment/game script Situational awareness. Just like players need to know when to be aggressive, coaches do as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CasperX22 Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 5 minutes ago, detfan782004 said: How? He stayed in base defense and let them shred it. That loss is on many things but A Glenn is garbage DC You don't think the Niners being down and out with nothing going their way and then giving them a hope doesn't change the moment of the game? Momentum is a real thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jameson_Neat Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 1 minute ago, squire12 said: When a team is up 17 points at half and that lead evaporates in 1 quarter it is a collective fail. Failed 4th down. Cb misses interception ( who knows if the flag thrown would have been called dpi or not). RB fumbles on 1st play Offense doesn’t score until under 2 minutes in 4th Q. Defense couldn't hold. Offense couldn't score enough. Questionable coaching decisions. Pretty clear the flag was for OPI or else there'd be no reason to pick it up. Outcome would be almost the same. That said, the Lions didn't lose because of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detfan782004 Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 Just now, CasperX22 said: You don't think the Niners being down and out with nothing going their way and then giving them a hope doesn't change the moment of the game? Momentum is a real thing. Yes A Glenn gave them hope. Spot on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Ramster Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 This game has left me emotionally drained of dopamine. I wasn’t even really watching it like that. I need a nap. What a weird feeling game… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 I may be wrong, but I think CMC was the only RB to rush for even 70 yards against the lions this year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NinerFever Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 I swear, when Kittle is done with Football he will be in the WWE.... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TecmoSuperJoe Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 LMAO this fool. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 I love Campbell 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jofos Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 9 minutes ago, Jameson_Neat said: Pretty clear the flag was for OPI or else there'd be no reason to pick it up. Outcome would be almost the same. That said, the Lions didn't lose because of it. I thought they were going to call DPI and they picked it up because it ended with a catch. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tugboat Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 8 minutes ago, 49ersfan said: Bosa just said stopping on the 1st 4th down was the turning point in an interview on ESPN You take the (likely) 3 points, go up 27-10 & its a completely different game. You have to take game script into account. Make it and its a 17 point game with like 22 minutes left in the game. It became a 7 point game with like 18 mins left. We stopped them and the momentum completely changed I think coaches need to adapt to the moment/game script Again though, you're treating that moment as a "fixed point" with 20-20 hindsight. That point is actually a Fulcrum. It can tip either way. For example, if they convert that and go on to put another 7 on the board, it's potentially an absolutely demoralizing death blow that completely alters the momentum of the game the other way. They're presenting the trophy to the Superbowl bound Detroit team and their players are giving an interview citing, "that call to go for on 4th down just showed so much confidence in us as a group and we ran with it to put them away". Momentum isn't just some set outcome, it's molded by the decisions that are made, and the outcomes of how those things pan out. You can't talk about "game scripts" retroactively like it's all already written. Not in the moment. It's like when people pick through a draft class years later and "wah obviously should've chosen this guy or that guy". When in reality, you can nitpick practically every pick in the draft and come up with a "better" decision that could have been made. But that's unreasonable and requires retroactive reasoning. The more important factor is...are you making more decent decisions than poor ones, and are you coming out ahead more often than not? The identity of that Lions team is heavily contingent on the tone Campbell has set with that very aggressive "vote of confidence" type decisionmaking. As the commentators hinted at, it's almost a core component of that team identity and what turned the franchise around and got them there in the first place. That swagger and mentality of, "**** it, let's go for it we got this". In the big picture, that tends to outweigh "game script" because it becomes part of writing that game script - and for Detroit this year, it was overwhelmingly positive overall. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire12 Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 11 minutes ago, Jameson_Neat said: Pretty clear the flag was for OPI or else there'd be no reason to pick it up. Outcome would be almost the same. That said, the Lions didn't lose because of it. If they flag Aiyuk for OPI, it negates the 50 yard pass and changes things in a big way. DPI is a no change vs the completion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyB Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 Ugh, so bummed, but I knew all along the lions had to get up by 3 tds and they just couldn't get there. As soon as they went for it on 4th after the half instead of staying with the pace, I knew it was over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jameson_Neat Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 12 minutes ago, squire12 said: Situational awareness. Just like players need to know when to be aggressive, coaches do as well. The play is there to be made and the player botched it. How is that any different than the K missing a FG? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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