coachbuns Posted Monday at 11:38 AM Share Posted Monday at 11:38 AM 8 hours ago, Spartacus said: They ain't cutting Quay snaps yet. New defense and not everyone is going to be comfortable immediately. Cooper needs more snaps but unfortunately or fortunately McDuffie and Wilson have made it hard to get more. Barry's defense was about as LB friendly as can be. Hafleys is tougher but definently allows the LBs to show out more. Ok, I'll give Walker some slack the past game or two but he's got to get his shi* together and soon. He's not a rookie any more .. if he continues to "struggle" learning the defense, maybe it's time to move him out of the middle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leader Posted Monday at 11:47 AM Share Posted Monday at 11:47 AM (edited) 9 minutes ago, coachbuns said: Ok, I'll give Walker some slack the past game or two but he's got to get his shi* together and soon. He's not a rookie any more .. if he continues to "struggle" learning the defense, maybe it's time to move him out of the middle. While there seems general dissatisfaction with Walkers game (and I've never thought he was stout enough against the run - which may/may not have been scheme), he has been our leading defensive tackler in both games. Edited Monday at 11:48 AM by Leader Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazrimiv Posted Monday at 12:36 PM Share Posted Monday at 12:36 PM If Quay had played a decent game, we would all be praising Hafley's defense today. Quay was consistently showing up in bad way. On a brighter note, Quay seems to have resolved the issue of wondering which player fans could complain about every week now that Dillon is no longer an option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Refugee Posted Monday at 01:23 PM Share Posted Monday at 01:23 PM 45 minutes ago, Mazrimiv said: If Quay had played a decent game, we would all be praising Hafley's defense today. Quay was consistently showing up in bad way. On a brighter note, Quay seems to have resolved the issue of wondering which player fans could complain about every week now that Dillon is no longer an option. Not Myers? 2 illegal man downfields and one vomited on the ball can’t win you scapegoat these days? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Guy Posted Monday at 02:00 PM Share Posted Monday at 02:00 PM 36 minutes ago, Refugee said: Not Myers? 2 illegal man downfields and one vomited on the ball can’t win you scapegoat these days? If Willis would have fumbled that play, I would have understood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartacus Posted Monday at 02:35 PM Share Posted Monday at 02:35 PM 1 hour ago, Refugee said: Not Myers? 2 illegal man downfields and one vomited on the ball can’t win you scapegoat these days? Illegal man downfield is rarely on the OL. Probably a screw up from Willis not getting the ball out in time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packfanfb Posted Monday at 02:42 PM Author Share Posted Monday at 02:42 PM (edited) 2 hours ago, Mazrimiv said: If Quay had played a decent game, we would all be praising Hafley's defense today. Quay was consistently showing up in bad way. On a brighter note, Quay seems to have resolved the issue of wondering which player fans could complain about every week now that Dillon is no longer an option. Fans complain about players who play poorly. That's not a novel concept. Part of Quays bad play isn't even his fault. He's not a Mike LB, he should be playing on the weak side. He lacks the instincts to play in the middle. Anyone who watches the game can see that. Edited Monday at 02:43 PM by packfanfb 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Refugee Posted Monday at 03:15 PM Share Posted Monday at 03:15 PM 37 minutes ago, Spartacus said: Illegal man downfield is rarely on the OL. Probably a screw up from Willis not getting the ball out in time. It’s on the whole unit not getting the timing down, but yes I’m not pinning it solely on Myers. He is one of this year’s scapegoats and had his number called a few times yesterday. When you run the ball the way that we did, OL gets a pass for some of their mistakes. Watching the film, there are no passes. We’ve got to get better if we want to beat better teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighCalebR Posted Monday at 03:24 PM Share Posted Monday at 03:24 PM (edited) 2 hours ago, packfanfb said: Fans complain about players who play poorly. That's not a novel concept. Part of Quays bad play isn't even his fault. He's not a Mike LB, he should be playing on the weak side. He lacks the instincts to play in the middle. Anyone who watches the game can see that. Our linebackers arent strict like that. Everyone has to be able to do it all. Way too easy to isolate guys on motions to have traditional mike will backers. For sure when we got 3 backers out there he's mike, yeah. Whihc we had quite a bit of in this one. But hes got some will looks when there was just the 2. Edited Monday at 04:55 PM by HighCalebR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighCalebR Posted Monday at 03:27 PM Share Posted Monday at 03:27 PM 9 minutes ago, Refugee said: It’s on the whole unit not getting the timing down, but yes I’m not pinning it solely on Myers. He is one of this year’s scapegoats and had his number called a few times yesterday. When you run the ball the way that we did, OL gets a pass for some of their mistakes. Watching the film, there are no passes. We’ve got to get better if we want to beat better teams. Yeah but the man downfield isnt on myers at all. Hes not watching the pass. His job is to get out in front of the screen. Willis double clutched. You cant pin it solely on myers because you cant pin it on him at all. Also, linemen puke sometimes. Unfortunately it hit the ball. Its like 80% water haha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Refugee Posted Monday at 03:35 PM Share Posted Monday at 03:35 PM 4 minutes ago, HighCalebR said: Yeah but the man downfield isnt on myers at all. Hes not watching the pass. His job is to get out in front of the screen. Willis double clutched. You cant pin it solely on myers because you cant pin it on him at all. Also, linemen puke sometimes. Unfortunately it hit the ball. Its like 80% water haha. In some ways it’s on the linemen in the sense that the pressure got through and disrupted the timing. That happens all the time and we had a QB who has barely broken in his cleats with us, so understandable. Waiting too long can get you crushed in the NFL but everyone probably needs half a beat when things go off script with our new QB. A well executed screen play can look easy but like you said, it’s about everyone in the backfield getting it right so the linemen can go full speed without thinking about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighCalebR Posted Monday at 03:52 PM Share Posted Monday at 03:52 PM (edited) 1 hour ago, Refugee said: In some ways it’s on the linemen in the sense that the pressure got through and disrupted the timing. That happens all the time and we had a QB who has barely broken in his cleats with us, so understandable. Waiting too long can get you crushed in the NFL but everyone probably needs half a beat when things go off script with our new QB. A well executed screen play can look easy but like you said, it’s about everyone in the backfield getting it right so the linemen can go full speed without thinking about it. No its just not. hes not looking backward the ball has to come out. were not relying on guys having 6th senses. theres zero ways its on myers. on a screen you block for half a beat and get out. tackles invite pressure into them, gotta find a way to get the ball out. Im watching the first one right now, Tom covers Kraft up a bit muddying the picture so Willis double clutches. ball should just be in the dirt if youre not comfortable making the throw.. Myers is stalling at the LoS for long enough for Tom to also be illegal. ITs 100% on Willis. The 2nd one is a BS flag. a large portion of his body isnt past 1 yard downfield when the ball is launched. Its not even ticky tack its a bad flag. Edited Monday at 04:46 PM by HighCalebR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachbuns Posted Monday at 11:54 PM Share Posted Monday at 11:54 PM 12 hours ago, Leader said: While there seems general dissatisfaction with Walkers game (and I've never thought he was stout enough against the run - which may/may not have been scheme), he has been our leading defensive tackler in both games. I guess that's a positive .. that position needs to be a run stuffer and that's not his forte. Put him where his speed and quickness is utilized .. he's not a plug the hole guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazrimiv Posted Tuesday at 12:35 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 12:35 PM On 9/16/2024 at 7:47 AM, Leader said: While there seems general dissatisfaction with Walkers game (and I've never thought he was stout enough against the run - which may/may not have been scheme), he has been our leading defensive tackler in both games. The tackle count would be more impressive if Quay was making tackles near the LOS rather than chasing runners down after they run by him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted Tuesday at 02:04 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 02:04 PM 1 hour ago, Mazrimiv said: The tackle count would be more impressive if Quay was making tackles near the LOS rather than chasing runners down after they run by him. #AJHawk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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