coachbuns Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, AlexGreen#20 said: You're welcome to look up the penalty data. And it's not that easy if the playcalling and the play design are the reason for the issue. Nope, you brought up the theory … that's on you to look the data up to justify your thoughts. Must be easier for some teams to do the OPI as it happens every single game in the NFL. Edited February 11, 2020 by coachbuns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexGreen#20 Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 17 minutes ago, coachbuns said: Nope, you brought up the theory … that's on you to look the data up to justify your thoughts. Must be easier for some teams to do the OPI as it happens every single game in the NFL. We were tied with three other teams for the 2nd most OPI penalties called against us with 6. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanedorf Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 It was also a "Point of Emphasis" for the Refs in 2019 I suspect we'll have more changes in 2020 as the PI rules/ review were only a test case and we'll get new focus for next year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fl0nkerton Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 TIL Davon House is only 30 years old. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanedorf Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 24 minutes ago, Fl0nkerton said: TIL Davon House is only 30 years old. And he earned $ 21 million in his career...not bad for a 4th rounder from new mexico state 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fl0nkerton Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 1 minute ago, Shanedorf said: And he earned $ 21 million in his career...not bad for a 4th rounder from new mexico state that's what I'm saying. Good for him! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachbuns Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 1 hour ago, AlexGreen#20 said: We were tied with three other teams for the 2nd most OPI penalties called against us with 6. Very nicely done. Again, is it players, scheming, coaching ... combo? Whatever it is, it's got be done "better" as there are 27 other teams not having it called as much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexGreen#20 Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 Just now, coachbuns said: Very nicely done. Again, is it players, scheming, coaching ... combo? Whatever it is, it's got be done "better" as there are 27 other teams not having it called as much. If your blocking scheme calls for an illegal cut block as part of the play, and your HC thinks that he'll get more yards out of the cut blocks than he'll lose from penalties, is it the fault of the Center that he occasionally gets called for clipping? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas492 Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 In other news...the "don't pay RB's elite money" is proving correct, if the Falcons do in fact cut ties with Freeman. Top 5 paid RB's... Zeke at average salary of $15M. Gurley at $14.375M Bell at $13.125M Freeman at $8.25M Johnson at $13M. Rumors of Gurley, Freeman and Johnson getting cut or reduced. Rumors of Gase not liking Bell's contract. Which means....next top 5 average salary. Barkley, $7.798M (rookie deal) McKinnon, $7.5M. Fournette, $6.787M. Miller, $6.5M. Lewis, $4.95M. How's Jones' value looking now? Seems like an $7-8M/average is in play, somewhat. I'm not sure that I wouldn't pay that for 3-4 years for Jones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachbuns Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 5 hours ago, AlexGreen#20 said: If your blocking scheme calls for an illegal cut block as part of the play, and your HC thinks that he'll get more yards out of the cut blocks than he'll lose from penalties, is it the fault of the Center that he occasionally gets called for clipping? What the heck does this have to do with OPI? That's what I'm talking about ... quit moving the goal post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighCalebR Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 1 minute ago, coachbuns said: What the heck does this have to do with OPI? That's what I'm talking about ... quit moving the goal post. WR screens, if you get called for OPI blocking for a screen once but twice it works, is the play worth it? The difference between OPI and not on that play can be the ball coming out a half second earlier. The "picking" WR isn't going to know the difference. So even though the player was called for OPI it was the play designs fault more than anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachbuns Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 7 minutes ago, HighCalebR said: WR screens, if you get called for OPI blocking for a screen once but twice it works, is the play worth it? The difference between OPI and not on that play can be the ball coming out a half second earlier. The "picking" WR isn't going to know the difference. So even though the player was called for OPI it was the play designs fault more than anything. I'm looking more at down field plays/crossing routes, etc. If it's a wide receiver screen .. you are correct. I'm more concerned about the previous more than a screen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnar Danneskjold Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 On 2/11/2020 at 7:39 AM, AlexGreen#20 said: The OPI number would go down a lot if we didn't call 4 plays a game where we ask one of our receivers to commit OPI as part of the play design. If we are being called less than once every two games on average, then it is hard to imagine it goes down "a lot" no matter what. Based on the post, league average is 3. Are we really going to change the system to stop 4 penalties per year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachbuns Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 3 hours ago, Ragnar Danneskjold said: If we are being called less than once every two games on average, then it is hard to imagine it goes down "a lot" no matter what. Based on the post, league average is 3. Are we really going to change the system to stop 4 penalties per year? Or better yet, how about a wr coach teaching the finer points of running that play without getting called/caught. There's a boat load of teams doing just that while running their route running. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexGreen#20 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 29 minutes ago, coachbuns said: Or better yet, how about a wr coach teaching the finer points of running that play without getting called/caught. There's a boat load of teams doing just that while running their route running. Again, that's not what they're being asked to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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