squire12 Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 Early 2019 Vegas odds for Super Bowl favorites NE: 9-2 PIT: 8-1 PHI: 6-1 MIN: 12-1 GB: 12-1 NO: 16-1 ATL: 18-1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mission27 Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 1 minute ago, Quark3 said: It's a function of schedule. Last year, the Falcons SB year, according to Sagarin the Patriots played the softest schedule in the NFL. That's despite making the Final 4 the year before. So ... super easy schedule = great record = HFA = easy playoff games in Foxboro = Super Bowl. This year, after winning the Super Bowl last year, the Patriots still managed to play the 27th weakest schedule. So the last few years, the team hasn't been as good as its record. Probably an 11-5 team with 13 or 14 wins thanks to basket case schedule. 11-5 team? They beat the Steelers, Saints, Falcons, Jaguars, Bills, and Titans. That's six playoff teams. They came within a strip sack of winning the SB. Just cause they beat up on the Jets twice and Dolphins once doesn't mean they were an 11-5 team. But they absolutely were top heavy and Brady carried them all year. Hopefully next year is better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quark3 Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 1 minute ago, squire12 said: Balance of close games will generally level out near .500 record wise. Certainly so when playing other top level teams. NE has won some they probably didn't "deserve" to win and lost some they probably "deserve" to lose Thing is, Super Bowls don't have to be close. Lord knows there have been many dominant performances, just not by New England. And it's not a function of a more recent era: Since 2000, in Super Bowls not involving the Patriots, the average MOV is a whopping 16 points. The Patriots under Belichik just don't can't seem to do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manny/Patrick Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 Just now, squire12 said: Early 2019 Vegas odds for Super Bowl favorites NE: 9-2 PIT: 8-1 PHI: 6-1 MIN: 12-1 GB: 12-1 NO: 16-1 ATL: 18-1 SF at 20-1??? im more upset Jimmy G didn’t get his 2nd Ring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
childofpudding Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 Just now, mission27 said: 11-5 team? They beat the Steelers, Saints, Falcons, Jaguars, Bills, and Titans. That's six playoff teams. They came within a strip sack of winning the SB. Just cause they beat up on the Jets twice and Dolphins once doesn't mean they were an 11-5 team. But they absolutely were top heavy and Brady carried them all year. Hopefully next year is better. Don't bother. He cried about the refs for 20 pages in the Jags post-game thread. Literally not worth replying to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mission27 Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 1 minute ago, squire12 said: Early 2019 Vegas odds for Super Bowl favorites NE: 9-2 PIT: 8-1 PHI: 6-1 MIN: 12-1 GB: 12-1 NO: 16-1 ATL: 18-1 Phily at 6-1 with Wentz is criminally low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Penske Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 Just now, ChazStandard said: Neither Brees nor Rodgers have ever lost a game where they didn't punt, didn't throw an interception and averaged over 10 yards a play. I'm 99% sure of that. Oh man you get the point. Tough to win when ur defense can’t stop anything... maybe not to the exact same level but : https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201001100crd.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnarok Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 Personally, I think Philly fans are the worst in the country, with Boston fans a tiny bit behind. That said, good on them for the win. It is nice to see a team with that long a history finally get a SB win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChazStandard Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 Just now, Quark3 said: Thing is, Super Bowls don't have to be close. Lord knows there have been many dominant performances, just not by New England. And it's not a function of a more recent era: Since 2000, in Super Bowls not involving the Patriots, the average MOV is a whopping 16 points. The Patriots under Belichik just don't can't seem to do that. "They weren't that great, they only won their 5 Superbowls by quite narrow margins" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire12 Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 Just now, mission27 said: 2 minutes ago, squire12 said: Early 2019 Vegas odds for Super Bowl favorites NE: 9-2 PIT: 8-1 PHI: 6-1 MIN: 12-1 GB: 12-1 NO: 16-1 ATL: 18-1 Phily at 6-1 with Wentz is criminally low. Strength of the conferences plays a role in that. Wentz is also coming off a knee injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quark3 Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 Just now, mission27 said: 11-5 team? They beat the Steelers, Saints, Falcons, Jaguars, Bills, and Titans. That's six playoff teams. They came within a strip sack of winning the SB. Just cause they beat up on the Jets twice and Dolphins once doesn't mean they were an 11-5 team. But they absolutely were top heavy and Brady carried them all year. Hopefully next year is better. Last year and this year they went 14-2 and 13-3, but were nowhere near that good. Just played really soft schedules. 11-5 is about what we'd expect against a medium schedule. Heck, how close were those Jags and Steelers games? And come on, you're not going to tell me the Titans and Bills were any good at all. They made the playoffs because someone had to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malik Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 3 minutes ago, ChazStandard said: Neither Brees nor Rodgers have ever lost a game where they didn't punt, didn't throw an interception and averaged over 10 yards a play. I'm 99% sure of that. Eh Brees lost to the Raiders in 2016 when his team punted twice, but still had 0 interceptions, 4 touchdowns, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webmaster Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 4 minutes ago, footlunder said: Cry more. Pathetic patriot/Brady nut huggers. Here is a warning for inappropriate comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mission27 Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 Just now, Quark3 said: Last year and this year they went 14-2 and 13-3, but were nowhere near that good. Just played really soft schedules. 11-5 is about what we'd expect against a medium schedule. Heck, how close were those Jags and Steelers games? And come on, you're not going to tell me the Titans and Bills were any good at all. They made the playoffs because someone had to. "were nowhere near that good." Yes they just went 2/2 in AFC Championships, won a Super Bowl, and almost repeated. They were clearly a borderline playoff team that got lucky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webmaster Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 2 minutes ago, Ragnarok said: Personally, I think Philly fans are the worst in the country, with Boston fans a tiny bit behind. Please don't insult fans. Discuss the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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