Rainmaker90 Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 1 hour ago, CWood21 said: I actually kinda like Minnesota's offensive core. Their defense has regressed badly. They're literally running out of bodies in the secondary. Since 2015, they've taken four corners inside the top 64 and only one of them is still a Bengal (although he left and came back). And the DL is big dud without Danielle Hunter. Outside of Darrisaw, their '21 class looks bad with nearly no production. And outside of Jefferson and to a lesser extent Ezra Cleveland, their '20 class isn't good either. Valued depth over potential starters those two years. They just seem like they’re a perfect football purgatory team. 7-10 wins but not a contender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leader Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 2 hours ago, CWood21 said: He's coming off a back injury (which they probably should have shut him down for the season tbh), which is why he's struggling. Plus, he wasn't a real natural LT prospect to begin with. The Bears seemed intent on forcing it. And the Bears have their FRP next year. https://www.prosportstransactions.com/football/DraftTrades/Future/Bears.htm They're screwed this year without a FRP and also a 4th round pick as part of the Fields trade. Any significant upgrade is going to have to be a combination of the Nagy replacement and Fields' development. ? Chicago doesnt have a FRP in the 2022 draft. They gave it to the Giants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Guy Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 7 minutes ago, Leader said: ? Chicago doesnt have a FRP in the 2022 draft. They gave it to the Giants. Think that was in reference to 2023. I thought they weren't picking in round one until 2024, which is incorrect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainmaker90 Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 3 hours ago, CWood21 said: I actually kinda like Minnesota's offensive core. Their defense has regressed badly. They're literally running out of bodies in the secondary. Since 2015, they've taken four corners inside the top 64 and only one of them is still a Bengal (although he left and came back). And the DL is big dud without Danielle Hunter. Outside of Darrisaw, their '21 class looks bad with nearly no production. And outside of Jefferson and to a lesser extent Ezra Cleveland, their '20 class isn't good either. Valued depth over potential starters those two years. 2 hours ago, squire12 said: Detroit might be in the best situation in like 5 years. If they can add another solid draft class with the high picks they have in 2022 and likely 2023, they could be in line for a nice young solid core group. they will need to draft well and find the QB for things to pan out I just see Minnesota as a classic football purgatory team. 7-10 wins, maybe making the playoffs but not really a threat. Gate keeper team. I agree Squire. It may be a longer rebuild, but I think they’re on the right track. And laugh at him or whatever you want, the guys play for Dan Campbell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgbeethree Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 14 minutes ago, Rainmaker90 said: I agree Squire. It may be a longer rebuild, but I think they’re on the right track. And laugh at him or whatever you want, the guys play for Dan Campbell The RaRa guys usually don't last long in the NFL unless they're winning. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainmaker90 Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 27 minutes ago, wgbeethree said: The RaRa guys usually don't last long in the NFL unless they're winning. They’re not my favorite type of coaches, but Detroit is playing hard for him . And I think that says something. Maybe he’s a good organizer too, who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexGreen#20 Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 1 hour ago, wgbeethree said: The RaRa guys usually don't last long in the NFL unless they're winning. Campbell is more than a RaRa guy. There's some surgeon behind the caveman persona. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted December 24, 2021 Author Share Posted December 24, 2021 10 hours ago, Leader said: ? Chicago doesnt have a FRP in the 2022 draft. They gave it to the Giants. I worded it poorly. Their next FRP in in 2023. The way I read the initial post was that they traded their next 2 FRPs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted December 24, 2021 Author Share Posted December 24, 2021 11 hours ago, squire12 said: Detroit might be in the best situation in like 5 years. If they can add another solid draft class with the high picks they have in 2022 and likely 2023, they could be in line for a nice young solid core group. they will need to draft well and find the QB for things to pan out That's assuming they draft well. I'm not overly fond of their draft class this past draft aside from Penei Sewell and ARSB. They drafted Levi Onwuzurike pretty high, and he's only played in 32% of the snaps. Alim McNeill was their 3rd round pick and he's played in 35% of their snaps. And the two of them have a combined 2 sacks. Ifeatu Melifonwu was someone I liked, but he's only played in 4 games thus far. I'm not tripping over myself to praise the Lions for taking the BPA and my #2 prospect in the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneTwoSixFive Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 (edited) If you look at my comment under every post - that comment applies to the Lions in the last draft, who managed to take my listed favourite draftees with most of their picks (actually 5 of the first 6 picks they made were all on my list), only DT Alim McNeil missing out (and I didn't mind him). In contrast the Packers took just a single pick on my list of 60-70, and that was at pick 256 (three picks away from Mr.Irrelevant), Mississippi St. RB, Kylin Hill. Edited December 24, 2021 by OneTwoSixFive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire12 Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 7 hours ago, CWood21 said: 18 hours ago, squire12 said: Detroit might be in the best situation in like 5 years. If they can add another solid draft class with the high picks they have in 2022 and likely 2023, they could be in line for a nice young solid core group. they will need to draft well and find the QB for things to pan out That's assuming they draft well. I'm not overly fond of their draft class this past draft aside from Penei Sewell and ARSB. They drafted Levi Onwuzurike pretty high, and he's only played in 32% of the snaps. Alim McNeill was their 3rd round pick and he's played in 35% of their snaps. And the two of them have a combined 2 sacks. Ifeatu Melifonwu was someone I liked, but he's only played in 4 games thus far. I'm not tripping over myself to praise the Lions for taking the BPA and my #2 prospect in the draft It's almost like I said they need to draft well and find the QB. Thanks for agreeing with me but still disagreeing.....classic CWood!!! Gotta find the argument somewhere and flaunt the moderator tag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bad Example Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 14 minutes ago, squire12 said: It's almost like I said they need to draft well and find the QB. Thanks for agreeing with me but still disagreeing.....classic CWood!!! Gotta find the argument somewhere and flaunt the moderator tag Well, that explains the upvote you gave me when someone did the same thing to me: "They didn't sustain their elite defense though" other guy: "The problem is they didn't sustain their elite defense" "huh how about that" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HokieHigh Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 (edited) rodg owns dallas i would be thrilled to have the NFCCG in jerryworld. that said, i am sure zeke and amari cooper are too mentally fragile for winter in wisconsin Edited December 24, 2021 by HokieHigh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Guy Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 3 minutes ago, HokieHigh said: rodg owns dallas i would be thrilled to have the NFCCG in jerryworld. that said, i am sure zeke and amari cooper are too mentally fragile for winter in wisconsin Aren't you the guy who wants to let Jaire walk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HokieHigh Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 20 minutes ago, Old Guy said: Aren't you the guy who wants to let Jaire walk? I never said I wanted to let Ja walk. I said we might be in the position to let him walk. People on this board have no idea what Ja's negotiating priorities are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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