incognito_man Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 1 minute ago, Packerraymond said: I'll come back here when they're bounced in the Divisional round and we can discuss their DVOA then. Elite teams get bounced in the divisional round regularly. So if that happens, your gloating will look just as dumb then as your inability to recognize reality of how good they are now does! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 5 minutes ago, incognito_man said: Elite teams in October get bounced in the divisional round regularly. Agreed. That's why calling a team with no history of playoff performance elite right now is silly! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 4 minutes ago, Packerraymond said: Agreed. That's why calling a team with no history of playoff performance elite right now is silly! Elite teams in January do, too. Regularly. For numerous reasons. The "best" team doesn't always win or make it to the SB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazrimiv Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 DET visits BAL next week. That's a legit test for anyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 12 minutes ago, Mazrimiv said: DET visits BAL next week. That's a legit test for anyone. But it's still October Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire12 Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 1 hour ago, incognito_man said: The "computer" is simply a compilation of the on-field results. They best KC in KC, but you think they aren't in the same tier because of your eye test (or something). It's just laughable, really Does Detroit beat KC if KC has Kelce and Chris Jones? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas492 Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, squire12 said: Does Detroit beat KC if KC has Kelce and Chris Jones? I feel that KC wins. It still would not have been easy, but yeah. Edited October 17, 2023 by vegas492 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 4 minutes ago, vegas492 said: I feel that they do. It still would not have been easy, but yeah. Very curious to hear how, seeing as they won by 1 point off a pick 6 that probably doesn't go anywhere near Toney's stone hands with Kelce in the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas492 Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 46 minutes ago, Packerraymond said: Very curious to hear how, seeing as they won by 1 point off a pick 6 that probably doesn't go anywhere near Toney's stone hands with Kelce in the game. My bad, I'll go back and edit. I see that I didn't answer as I had intended to. I feel like KC wins. Like it wouldn't have been easy, probably would have come down to a drive or two in the 4'th quarter, but KC would have won. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas492 Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 (edited) nvr mind. Just me hitting buttons and not knowing what I'm doing. Typical. Edited October 17, 2023 by vegas492 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgbeethree Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 3 hours ago, incognito_man said: The "computer" is simply a compilation of the on-field results. They best KC in KC, but you think they aren't in the same tier because of your eye test (or something). It's just laughable, really There's zero chance anybody actually watched that game unbiasedly and came away thinking the Lions were the better team going forward. The Chiefs were missing two of their three best players and the Lions had about a half dozen crazy bounces go their way. It's just laughable, really Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 2 hours ago, squire12 said: Does Detroit beat KC if KC has Kelce and Chris Jones? Does Detroit win by even more with all their guys playing that weren't? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 31 minutes ago, wgbeethree said: There's zero chance anybody actually watched that game unbiasedly and came away thinking the Lions were the better team going forward. The Chiefs were missing two of their three best players and the Lions had about a half dozen crazy bounces go their way. It's just laughable, really It's cute you think DVOA is biased toward the Lions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Penske Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 4 hours ago, Striker said: Per DVOA as of this week, yes. #4 offense and #3 defense. 49ers are #1, Eagles are #7, Seahawks are #10, Rams are #11, Saints are #12, and Cowboys are #14. 4 hours ago, incognito_man said: Time to accept it Nah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Penske Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 I would put a massive amount of money on detroit not ending up the 2nd best team in the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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