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Bullpen has had only a couple rough games this season, highlighted recently by one terrible game. But Hand, Karinchak, Maton, Perez, Wittgren have been extremely good and consistent through the season. Quantrill is hopefully going to be a nice piece too. This bullpen is fine and has room to get better. 

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16 minutes ago, FEARtheELF said:

He is facing Major League hitters who are very good at their job also.....  He wasn’t going to be a career sub 1.00 ERA guy.

Of course not.

But he could be a lights out setup man.

I do not think that it is so much the hitters have adjusted to him.

It is more that he is no longer throwing his pitches for strikes.

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37 minutes ago, FEARtheELF said:

Bullpen has had only a couple rough games this season, highlighted recently by one terrible game. But Hand, Karinchak, Maton, Perez, Wittgren have been extremely good and consistent through the season. Quantrill is hopefully going to be a nice piece too. This bullpen is fine and has room to get better. 

Maton is starting to have issues walking guys, but you’re right.

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8 minutes ago, bruceb said:

How do you know this?

Is it readily available?

And what about BA with RISP?

google...

If I found the stat, its readily available...

its called baseball reference and fangraphs.

I cant find anything that is RISP AVG pitcher stat

LOB (left on base) -Wins is an estimate of how many wins a pitcher has added as a result of stranding runners on base. This is just a general name for a component that involves different aspects of a pitcher’s game with respect to baserunners, for example: controlling the running game, pitching differently with runners on, or pitching out of the stretch.

This stat by fangraph ranks the Indians bullpen 9th. 

go to fangraph and sort the info by relief pitching. Gets you a bunch of stats and info. All the stats and info will just show you that the Indians bullpen is one of the better bullpens in the league. Easily top10, pretty much top5ish.

Indians offense has been inconsistent as hell but the reason the Indians are as good as they are is because they have the best starting pitching in the league and a top5ish bullpen.

So to say the bullpen is scary, its kinda whiny..

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At this point, the Indians' postseason formula seems clear: Smother the opposition and hope that Jose Ramirez, Francisco Lindor, Carlos Santana and Franmil Reyes can carry the offense. As for the outfield, the goal is to figure out the rotation that best augments that reality, even if it is some kind of max-defense configuration that features both Delino DeShields and Oscar Mercado. -- Doolittle

They forgot Cesar Hernandez, but this is who we are.

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3 minutes ago, FEARtheELF said:

Then we will get back some prospects. They aren’t going to just let him walk

dont under estimate how cheap the dolans can be...

They did let Brantley just walk away in the middle of a title window. That window is pretty much closed now. So I can see them letting him walk to make sure they can save the money

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9 hours ago, buno67 said:

dont under estimate how cheap the dolans can be...

They did let Brantley just walk away in the middle of a title window. That window is pretty much closed now. So I can see them letting him walk to make sure they can save the money

Yes, but Brantley's contract was up, Hand's is not.

 

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42 minutes ago, FEARtheELF said:

Yes, but Brantley's contract was up, Hand's is not.

 

Hands contract is pretty much up tho. It has a very friendly team option. They could spend $900k to get out of his $10m contact. Dolans are prolly loving the idea of saving $9m

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1 hour ago, buno67 said:

Hands contract is pretty much up tho. It has a very friendly team option. They could spend $900k to get out of his $10m contact. Dolans are prolly loving the idea of saving $9m

True, but I think the writing is on the wall that they will trade him and it will be easy. They have Karinchak (sp) who is a easy closer in waiting and didnt they get back one or two relief prospects in the Clevenger trade from the Padres? They could just slide those guys into the bullpen and shift Karinchak to the full time closer roll and call it a day.

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