fattlipp Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 On 2/24/2018 at 10:07 AM, HorizontoZenith said: Lol. Got it. You're awful. Thanks. Continue to neglect two instances of this, but I get that you find quitting in football worse than endangering human lives. From a football POV yes, I agree, quitting on a team is much more concerning. Hell like 1/5 drivers get a DUI in their life, football players are not wiser than the norm. Its a lack of judgement mistake, acting like a DUI puts you in company like Hernandez, Carruth or Ray Lewis is ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fattlipp Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 Burton would be a good TE option to pursue, looks like Eagles will let him go... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacReady Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 Just now, fattlipp said: Burton would be a good TE option to pursue, looks like Eagles will let him go... Can't sign him because he just won the Super Bowl and Long/Blount just won back-to-back Super Bowls with different teams, so we have to wait at least 3 years before we sign anybody from a Super Bowl winning team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jleisher Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 22 hours ago, NormSizedMidget said: He went to FSU though Sorry, I thought it was USC, thinks for the correction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jleisher Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 2 hours ago, HorizontoZenith said: Can't sign him because he just won the Super Bowl and Long/Blount just won back-to-back Super Bowls with different teams, so we have to wait at least 3 years before we sign anybody from a Super Bowl winning team. Sorry, I am confused. I am reading this as sarcasm? Correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacReady Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 Just now, jleisher said: Sorry, I am confused. I am reading this as sarcasm? Correct? Not sarcasm. More like extremely self-aware superstition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Fussnputz Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 44 minutes ago, HorizontoZenith said: Not sarcasm. More like extremely self-aware superstition. I dunno. Super Bowl teams are more than the sum of their parts. Somehow they manage to capture lightening in a bottle. Individual players from a Super Bowl team may or may not help another team do the same. With free agents, it's more about fit than where the free agent comes from. Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacReady Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 Just now, Mr. Fussnputz said: I dunno. Super Bowl teams are more than the sum of their parts. Somehow they manage to capture lightening in a bottle. Individual players from a Super Bowl team may or may not help another team do the same. With free agents, it's more about fit than where the free agent comes from. Cheers. I'm going to be superstitious until the Packers win another Super Bowl and nothing you say can stop me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 1 hour ago, HorizontoZenith said: I'm going to be superstitious until the Packers win another Super Bowl and nothing you say can stop me. We'll have to get our TE in the 1st then, if we aren't getting Burton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanedorf Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 Not many good pass rushers in FA, that's pretty typical But there might be some guys under contract who could be moved. Either because of scheme/coaching change or because of cap issues. Somebody mentioned Jerry Hughes awhile back. He's interesting. I was also looking a little further south The Jags are currently number 1 in the league in positional spending on the DL (per OTC). They spent huge in FA, grabbing Calais Campbell and Malik Jackson as well as adding Marcell Dareus. Those guys cost big cash. In 2018, the Jags will spend 58M in cap just on their DL and 57M in cap on their entire freaking offense. One of their DE's, Donte Fowler is a FA after 2018. But it doesn't seem likely that they can afford him...and the Jags already have his (cheap) replacement at DE, Yannick Ngakoue . Maybe they'd be open to an overture from the Packers, that way they get a draft pick for a guy they're gonna lose next year anyways. I took a quick peek and the Jags forum has contemplated this eventuality - losing Fowler. He's only 24 years old too. 6'3 and 261 https://overthecap.com/player/dante-fowler-jr/3851/ He's had some off the field incidents, misdemeanors for being a dumbass. Don't know if he's any good, but I read he's really starting to "get it" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire12 Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 11 minutes ago, Shanedorf said: Not many good pass rushers in FA, that's pretty typical But there might be some guys under contract who could be moved. Either because of scheme/coaching change or because of cap issues. Somebody mentioned Jerry Hughes awhile back. He's interesting. I was also looking a little further south The Jags are currently number 1 in the league in positional spending on the DL (per OTC). They spent huge in FA, grabbing Calais Campbell and Malik Jackson as well as adding Marcell Dareus. Those guys cost big cash. In 2018, the Jags will spend 58M in cap just on their DL and 57M in cap on their entire freaking offense. One of their DE's, Donte Fowler is a FA after 2018. But it doesn't seem likely that they can afford him...and the Jags already have his (cheap) replacement at DE, Yannick Ngakoue . Maybe they'd be open to an overture from the Packers, that way they get a draft pick for a guy they're gonna lose next year anyways. I took a quick peek and the Jags forum has contemplated this eventuality - losing Fowler. He's only 24 years old too. 6'3 and 261 https://overthecap.com/player/dante-fowler-jr/3851/ He's had some off the field incidents, misdemeanors for being a dumbass. Don't know if he's any good, but I read he's really starting to "get it" I would highly doubt that JAX would move Fowler. They have a lot of $$ tied up in their DL, but after 2018, a good amount of those players can be cut and save a lot of cap space. This is JAX 2019. Campbell, and Jackson would each save $11M. Dareus could be cut with no dead cap. Player pos base prorated roster option workout dead cap cap number Calais Campbell DE $12,000,000 $1,500,000 - $1,000,000 - - - ($3,000,000) $14,500,000 8.90 Dawuane Smoot DE $812,500 $241,040 - - - - - ($482,080) $1,053,540 0.65 Yannick Ngakoue DE $834,269 $214,044 - - - - - ($214,044) $1,048,313 0.64 Hunter Dimick DE $570,000 - - - - - - - $570,000 0.35 Dante Fowler Jr. DE - - - - - - - - - 0.00 Malik Jackson DT $13,000,000 $2,000,000 - - - - - ($4,000,000) $15,000,000 9.21 Marcell Dareus DT $9,335,000 - $2,000,000 - $250,000 - - - $11,585,000 7.11 Abry Jones DT $3,400,000 - - - $600,000 - - - $4,000,000 2.46 Eli Ankou DT $645,000 - - - - - - - $645,000 0.40 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodjahs12 Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 They’re more likely to be willing to move Malik Jackson. Which I could be interested in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanedorf Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 Why would they wanna cut those DL guys ? Are they under-performing ( i have no clue) They don't have their replacements on the roster, but with Fowler, they do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 8 hours ago, fattlipp said: From a football POV yes, I agree, quitting on a team is much more concerning. Hell like 1/5 drivers get a DUI in their life, football players are not wiser than the norm. Its a lack of judgement mistake, acting like a DUI puts you in company like Hernandez, Carruth or Ray Lewis is ridiculous. i thought no way was this right, but damned if it isn't in the ballpark. Geez... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire12 Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 4 minutes ago, incognito_man said: 8 hours ago, fattlipp said: From a football POV yes, I agree, quitting on a team is much more concerning. Hell like 1/5 drivers get a DUI in their life, football players are not wiser than the norm. Its a lack of judgement mistake, acting like a DUI puts you in company like Hernandez, Carruth or Ray Lewis is ridiculous. i thought no way was this right, but damned if it isn't in the ballpark. Geez... Is that 20% will get a DUI or if you add up the total of DUI and divide by the adult population it calculates to 20%? With some individuals having 5+ DUI, the number could be skewed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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