pheltzbahr Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 Considering the growth of the actual NFL Salary Cap in the past 5 years has been a steady 8% per year, I think if we go out 4 years at 2.5%, we could find ourselves in a problem. I will vote no to the current option, but am fine with a 2.5% increase for each of the next 2 seasons. Topic #2 - NO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PR Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 Topic2 - Yes Topic 3 - A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WFLukic Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 53 minutes ago, pheltzbahr said: Considering the growth of the actual NFL Salary Cap in the past 5 years has been a steady 8% per year, I think if we go out 4 years at 2.5%, we could find ourselves in a problem. I will vote no to the current option, but am fine with a 2.5% increase for each of the next 2 seasons. Topic #2 - NO I agree with this reasoning. Topic 2 - No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WFLukic Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 also can we vote on homefield in the playoffs. Bizzbowl is played at a neutral venue. Higher seed has home field in other matches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlash Posted February 7, 2018 Author Share Posted February 7, 2018 1 hour ago, pheltzbahr said: Considering the growth of the actual NFL Salary Cap in the past 5 years has been a steady 8% per year, I think if we go out 4 years at 2.5%, we could find ourselves in a problem. I will vote no to the current option, but am fine with a 2.5% increase for each of the next 2 seasons. Topic #2 - NO 24 minutes ago, WFLukic said: I agree with this reasoning. Topic 2 - No. This IS something that can be voted on each year. And to be clear, @pheltzbahr by "find ourselves in a problem" what do you mean? I'm not as smart as yew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pheltzbahr Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 2 minutes ago, Jlash said: This IS something that can be voted on each year. And to be clear, @pheltzbahr by "find ourselves in a problem" what do you mean? I'm not as smart as yew. The general economic mechanics could break down if we lag or get ahead of the RL curve at some point. Its not prudent to commit to 4 years, and we could see voting based to reverse/enforce the rule to the benefit of your own team/cap, rather than the health of the league as a whole, which should be the basis of voting imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlash Posted February 7, 2018 Author Share Posted February 7, 2018 1 minute ago, pheltzbahr said: The general economic mechanics could break down if we lag or get ahead of the RL curve at some point. Its not prudent to commit to 4 years, and we could see voting based to reverse/enforce the rule to the benefit of your own team/cap, rather than the health of the league as a whole, which should be the basis of voting imo. The proposal doesn't ask for a 4 year commitment. He was just giving a break down of what it would look like 4 years from now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcb1213 Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 No 2, just tackle it year to year Wednesday three Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pheltzbahr Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 Just now, Jlash said: The proposal doesn't ask for a 4 year commitment. He was just giving a break down of what it would look like 4 years from now. It does say permanent, which again I think makes things potentially inflexible and open to shenanigans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlash Posted February 7, 2018 Author Share Posted February 7, 2018 Just now, pheltzbahr said: It does say permanent, which again I think makes things potentially inflexible and open to shenanigans. True, but it also points out the option of voting on it again in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlash Posted February 7, 2018 Author Share Posted February 7, 2018 Maybe it is better to work year to year, to avoid loop holes in wording. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TedLavie Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 Topic 2: no. I agree with Pheltz here. Topic 3: option b. I just don't see the downside of another day of voting. And given the number of people who didn't show up to vote every week, it would just help everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirA1 Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 2 hours ago, pheltzbahr said: Considering the growth of the actual NFL Salary Cap in the past 5 years has been a steady 8% per year, I think if we go out 4 years at 2.5%, we could find ourselves in a problem. I will vote no to the current option, but am fine with a 2.5% increase for each of the next 2 seasons. Topic #2 - NO It's not 2.5% for the next 4 years it's 2.5% forever, that's what the etc etc etc meant. As I mentioned we could always revisit the % increase in case the NFL gets some massive increases at a later date. Currently we are already ahead of them at $170K to $168M. What this does is just put an automatic increase in going forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnarok Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 If Topic 2 is an issue, then let's change it to go up 2.5% for the next two years and we can revisit it then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirA1 Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 (edited) 18 hours ago, SirA1 said: Topic #2 Permanent Salary Cap increases Year to Year Beginning in 2019, we will have a standard per year increase of the BDL salary cap of 2.5%. Rounding to the nearest $25 increment. YTY Salary Cap 2018 - $170,000 2019 - $174,250 2020 - $178,600 2021 - $183,075 Etc.Etc. The way we have done this in the past is every 2-3 years we just vote to Bump the Cap by about $5K. Structuring it this way would allow you to plan better for future contract increases in the BDL to match rising NFL contracts. I chose 2.5% to be somewhat on the cautious side. It should be enough but later down the road we can look at adjusting if needed. Rounding to make Rags happy. Yes - 10 - Hockey, Jlash, MD4L, Rags, RuskieTitan, PR, Whicker, Dingo, Xmad, SirA No - 4 - Pheltz, Lukic, Ted, BCB Paging. Edited February 8, 2018 by SirA1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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