gopherwrestler Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 5 minutes ago, Virginia Viking said: Really...the only point to keeping Reiff around is because his contract doesn't save us anything. He is a very, very mediocre tackle...which, unfortunately, makes him the second best lineman we have. He’s still a top 30 tackle in the NFL, which is starting quality. He’s just paid to be a Top 15 offensive tackle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SemperFeist Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 🤤 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gopherwrestler Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 12 minutes ago, SemperFeist said: 🤤 Yep yep, if he declares, he’s the best TE in the draft..... and won’t be drafted first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RpMc Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 If he declares, he’d be one of my targets at 18. Would impact the pass and run game, and still leaves us 2nd and 3rd round picks to address the OL. more likely to find impact talent with the OL in the 2nd/3rd than a TE in the 2nd/3rd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boda Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 On 12/31/2018 at 11:13 AM, dll2000 said: Im saying by time they are competent you might be out of your window which is now. Trade for them. You are already all in and coaches are in win or go home mode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingsrule Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 And why are we against moving him to LT? Seems like the logical thing to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingsrule Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 15 hours ago, RpMc said: If he declares, he’d be one of my targets at 18. Would impact the pass and run game, and still leaves us 2nd and 3rd round picks to address the OL. more likely to find impact talent with the OL in the 2nd/3rd than a TE in the 2nd/3rd Im on board with taking a TE early, but at 18? Don't know how I feel about it yet. Guess I'd have to see what OL we would be missing out on. No doubt TE is a need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gopherwrestler Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 18 minutes ago, vikingsrule said: And why are we against moving him to LT? Seems like the logical thing to do. Maybe he’s just extremely comfortable with the foot and handwork of the right side. Mid prefer to keep the players at a position their best at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cearbhall Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 39 minutes ago, vikingsrule said: And why are we against moving him to LT? Seems like the logical thing to do. I wouldn't completely rule it out as an option but the reason that I am against it is owing to concerns for his development. The TJ Clemmings debacle is still fresh. Switching him from side-to-side didn't give him his best chance to succeed. The team asked too much of Clemmings too early. I don't know that he would have ever been decent if brought along differently but I would be hesitant to push O'Neill down that same path. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gopherwrestler Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 9 minutes ago, Cearbhall said: I wouldn't completely rule it out as an option but the reason that I am against it is owing to concerns for his development. The TJ Clemmings debacle is still fresh. Switching him from side-to-side didn't give him his best chance to succeed. The team asked too much of Clemmings too early. I don't know that he would have ever been decent if brought along differently but I would be hesitant to push O'Neill down that same path. Agree, I also don’t believe Clemmings would of ever been above average, but we forced him inside, trained at guard, forced him to play RT, then immediately after he had to start right tackle. Never had a chance to developed and actually picked up worse habits than he had in college. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingsrule Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 42 minutes ago, Cearbhall said: I wouldn't completely rule it out as an option but the reason that I am against it is owing to concerns for his development. The TJ Clemmings debacle is still fresh. Switching him from side-to-side didn't give him his best chance to succeed. The team asked too much of Clemmings too early. I don't know that he would have ever been decent if brought along differently but I would be hesitant to push O'Neill down that same path. I think we can all agree that O'Neill as a rookie is light years better than Clemmings ever was. I don't see why Clemmings failure is considered in regards to O'Neill's future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gopherwrestler Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 17 minutes ago, vikingsrule said: I think we can all agree that O'Neill as a rookie is light years better than Clemmings ever was. I don't see why Clemmings failure is considered in regards to O'Neill's future. It’s not so much that, it’s the fact of why change him? He goes against just as good pass rushers on that side as he would the left. Maybe he just truly is comfortable there and it suits him best Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VikeManDan Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 2 hours ago, vikingsrule said: And why are we against moving him to LT? Seems like the logical thing to do. In today's game you need two solid tackles. If it ain't broke don't fix it, which is exactly why I'm in favor of leaving him at RT. O'Neill looks like a cornerstone piece at RT and I don't really want to mess with it. Ideally they can find someone that needs a year on the bench to replace Reiff in 2020. Someone like an Andre Dillard out of Washington State. If Jawaan Taylor, OT Florida, is there at 18, how do better minds think he would fit in at G in 2019 and then at LT in 2020? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RpMc Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 2 hours ago, vikingsrule said: And why are we against moving him to LT? Seems like the logical thing to do. Because the difference between right and left tackles in terms of the caliber of pass rushers they far is diminishing. No need to move him and make him adjust at this point of his career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingsrule Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 1 minute ago, RpMc said: Because the difference between right and left tackles in terms of the caliber of pass rushers they far is diminishing. No need to move him and make him adjust at this point of his career. But what about the impact in the run game. Is there a benefit there if we get a more powerful RT, hopefully someone that can still play in a ZBS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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