ILoveTheVikings Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 Perhaps they should have drafted a qb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chargers Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 4 hours ago, Kiwibrown said: Being mediocre for 95% of his career isn't going to hold eli back. He's got; the name, the superbowls, the draft story, in ny, people might no like it, but he is in. This. Eli has 2 SB wins over Tom Brady, played for the NY Giants, and his last name is Manning. He'll get in 1st ballot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minutemancl Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 1 hour ago, ILoveTheVikings said: Perhaps they should have drafted a qb ...have you seen Saquon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 12 hours ago, minutemancl said: ...have you seen Saquon? Aka LaDanian Tomlinson v 2.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minutemancl Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 I really do understand the thought process behind the Giants taking a QB in the 2018 draft, but I hate people dogging "picking a RB" without attributing a name or skillset or anything besides a position to the player they did draft. Watch Saquon play. Players are already calling him the best RB in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTTRDynasty Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 2 hours ago, minutemancl said: I really do understand the thought process behind the Giants taking a QB in the 2018 draft, but I hate people dogging "picking a RB" without attributing a name or skillset or anything besides a position to the player they did draft. Watch Saquon play. Players are already calling him the best RB in the league. Which doesn't mean much in the W-L column in today's league, evidenced by the Giants and Cardinals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minutemancl Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 1 minute ago, HTTRG3Dynasty said: Which doesn't mean much in the W-L column in today's league, evidenced by the Giants and Cardinals. ...well, yeah. One player isn't a team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTTRDynasty Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 3 minutes ago, minutemancl said: ...well, yeah. One player isn't a team. One QB would be a lot closer to that than one RB, impact-wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minutemancl Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 2 minutes ago, HTTRG3Dynasty said: One QB would be a lot closer to that than one RB, impact-wise. He'd be a rookie QB behind a bad OL with Johnathan Stewart as his running back. Not exactly a situation where he could succeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuskieTitan Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 1 hour ago, minutemancl said: He'd be a rookie QB behind a bad OL with Johnathan Stewart as his running back. Not exactly a situation where he could succeed. You mean to tell me it can take more than 1 draft to turn a franchise around and become a regular playoff contender? What garbage is that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 3 hours ago, HTTRG3Dynasty said: One QB would be a lot closer to that than one RB, impact-wise. A rookie QB? No. You put Allen, Darnold or Rosen behind this line, they don't win any more than they are now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILoveTheVikings Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 18 hours ago, minutemancl said: ...have you seen Saquon? Yep. Amazing player and will continue to be amazing. Look at someone like Joe Thomas. One of the best lineman ever but didn't impact any wins at all for Cleveland. If the Browns, in a hypothetical situation, could have switched him out for a franchise QB than they would have been in MUCH better shape. But a franchise QB is soooooooo much more valuable. No one player can carry a team (unless you are among the GOAT qb's) but a franchise QB influences winning so much more than an amazing RB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoFlyZone Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 On 10/11/2018 at 9:56 PM, lancerman said: I might throw up if Eli gets in the HOF before Brady/Brees/Rodgers I might throw up if he gets in, period. I mean, I know he probably will, but he is not HoF caliber at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minutemancl Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 15 hours ago, ILoveTheVikings said: Yep. Amazing player and will continue to be amazing. Look at someone like Joe Thomas. One of the best lineman ever but didn't impact any wins at all for Cleveland. If the Browns, in a hypothetical situation, could have switched him out for a franchise QB than they would have been in MUCH better shape. But a franchise QB is soooooooo much more valuable. No one player can carry a team (unless you are among the GOAT qb's) but a franchise QB influences winning so much more than an amazing RB. I don't think anybody is debating that a QB is the most impactful single position in football. The thing here is the Giants felt like they could take a good QB or an all-time great RB and chose the latter. For a team pretty devoid of talent everywhere, I'm totally ok with that. That Browns/Joe Thomas analogy I don't agree with at all. They absolutely made the right pick with Joe Thomas. The pick of Joe Thomas didn't fail them, every other pick they missed on failed them. It takes a lot to build a good team; you don't look at the great players you took and regret not picking a better or a more impactful player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 15 hours ago, ILoveTheVikings said: But a franchise QB is soooooooo much more valuable. So, was last draft the ONLY draft to get a franchise QB? I said it before, will say it again - I'll take Saquan/Justin Herbert over Darnold/Bryce Love every time (and I'm actually a fan of both Darnold AND Love). Next year, whichever QB the Giants land is going to start day one and have the luxury of giving the ball to Saquan 25+ times a game. That's going to make that learning curve much easier. Giants FO know where they are as a franchise - pretty far away from competing. Might as well build that offensive foundation around a very dynamic superback such as Barkley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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