Oregon Ducks Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 This is ridiculous. He’s been really good this year, even with crappy WRs, a crap running game, and an overrated Oline. Oh yeah, he’s also got a messed up hand. You really gonna judge him on a game when he was sacked 11 times and led the team in rushing with 25 yards (on 2 attempts)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyMossIsBoss Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 1 hour ago, Malik said: On one hand the best offensive player he's gotten to play with is Delanie Walker. On the other hand I haven't seen a QB in this passing era consistently have as many sub 200 yard passing games. DeShaun Watson hasn't even played 1 season worth of games and he already has more games with 300 yards passing than Mariota. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFlaccoSeagulls Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 13 minutes ago, Oregon Ducks said: This is ridiculous. He’s been really good this year, even with crappy WRs, a crap running game, and an overrated Oline. Oh yeah, he’s also got a messed up hand. You really gonna judge him on a game when he was sacked 11 times and led the team in rushing with 25 yards (on 2 attempts)? I mean, there's no way around it. He was really bad yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwny Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 11 hours ago, BayRaider said: He's better than Bortles. Jags are wasting an all time great D. Although after the Cowboy game maybe not... At this point, how is he better than Bortles? What does he do that’s better? He’s been worse for a significantly long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwny Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 31 minutes ago, Oregon Ducks said: This is ridiculous. He’s been really good this year, even with crappy WRs, a crap running game, and an overrated Oline. Oh yeah, he’s also got a messed up hand. You really gonna judge him on a game when he was sacked 11 times and led the team in rushing with 25 yards (on 2 attempts)? He’s thrown to more open receivers than any other Quarterback in football this year (yesterday not withstanding). How much better receiver play does he need? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwny Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 11 hours ago, Danger said: Is he even Bortles tier? TBH I know this will come off as a hot take from a Jaguars fan, but he's not. 25 games as this QB. And he's doing this while throwing to open receivers on 85.4% of his throws in 2017 and 88.1% this year. Combined across the two years, this is the highest rate in the entire NFL. He is throwing to open receivers, he just can't get them the ball because he sucks. *I will note it is behind the combined efforts of Alex Smith and Pat Mahomes in KC; but Alex Smith's rate in Washington is well below. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 Marcus Mariota Passing Statistics for Career Games 2016 to 2018 Games Passing Passing Year Tm G GS QBrec Cmp Att Cmp% Yds TD TD% Int Int% Lng Y/A AY/A Y/C Y/G Rate QBR Sk Yds NY/A ANY/A Sk% 4QC GWD Average 11.7 11.3 210.7 340.7 2483.7 13.7 9.3 22.3 142.7 Per 16 Games 16 16 289 467 3406 19 13 31 196 2016-2018 OTI 35 34 18-16-0 632 1022 61.8 7451 41 4 28 2.7 75 7.3 6.9 11.8 212.9 86.0 67 428 6.45 6.04 6.2 Blake Bortles Passing Statistics for Career Games 2015 to 2018 Games Passing Passing Year Tm G GS QBrec Cmp Att Cmp% Yds TD TD% Int Int% Lng Y/A AY/A Y/C Y/G Rate QBR Sk Yds NY/A ANY/A Sk% 4QC GWD Average 13.5 13.5 295.8 497.8 3423.5 22 13.8 30.8 177 Per 16 Games 16 16 351 590 4057 26 16 36 210 2015-2018 JAX 54 54 21-33-0 1183 1991 59.4 13694 88 4.4 55 2.8 90 6.9 6.5 11.6 253.6 83.5 123 708 6.14 5.80 5.8 Here are their stats per 16 games minus their rookie seasons. Yes Mariota might have a slightly higher completion percentage and rating, but I'll honestly take Bortles over Mariota given the numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFlaccoSeagulls Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 13 minutes ago, Danger said: Marcus Mariota Passing Statistics for Career Games 2016 to 2018 Games Passing Passing Year Tm G GS QBrec Cmp Att Cmp% Yds TD TD% Int Int% Lng Y/A AY/A Y/C Y/G Rate QBR Sk Yds NY/A ANY/A Sk% 4QC GWD Average 11.7 11.3 210.7 340.7 2483.7 13.7 9.3 22.3 142.7 Per 16 Games 16 16 289 467 3406 19 13 31 196 2016-2018 OTI 35 34 18-16-0 632 1022 61.8 7451 41 4 28 2.7 75 7.3 6.9 11.8 212.9 86.0 67 428 6.45 6.04 6.2 Blake Bortles Passing Statistics for Career Games 2015 to 2018 Games Passing Passing Year Tm G GS QBrec Cmp Att Cmp% Yds TD TD% Int Int% Lng Y/A AY/A Y/C Y/G Rate QBR Sk Yds NY/A ANY/A Sk% 4QC GWD Average 13.5 13.5 295.8 497.8 3423.5 22 13.8 30.8 177 Per 16 Games 16 16 351 590 4057 26 16 36 210 2015-2018 JAX 54 54 21-33-0 1183 1991 59.4 13694 88 4.4 55 2.8 90 6.9 6.5 11.6 253.6 83.5 123 708 6.14 5.80 5.8 Here are their stats per 16 games minus their rookie seasons. Yes Mariota might have a slightly higher completion percentage and rating, but I'll honestly take Bortles over Mariota given the numbers. I honestly had no idea it was really this close. I've seen a lot of Mariota vs. Bortles arguments, but never bothered to check the stats. Damn, that's pretty sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Hope- Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 1 hour ago, Oregon Ducks said: This is ridiculous. He’s been really good this year, even with crappy WRs, a crap running game, and an overrated Oline. Oh yeah, he’s also got a messed up hand. You really gonna judge him on a game when he was sacked 11 times and led the team in rushing with 25 yards (on 2 attempts)? he has had one good game this year. he has definitely not been "really good." listen, i've defended the guy plenty and there have been a good number of games where he has been significantly better than his stats, but yesterday was the opposite. he was terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oregon Ducks Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 2 hours ago, -Hope- said: he has had one good game this year. he has definitely not been "really good." listen, i've defended the guy plenty and there have been a good number of games where he has been significantly better than his stats, but yesterday was the opposite. he was terrible. What do you expect when you're sacked 11 times and your team can't run for ****? It was like Carr with the Texans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Hope- Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 3 minutes ago, Oregon Ducks said: What do you expect when you're sacked 11 times and your team can't run for ****? It was like Carr with the Texans. he ran straight into at least half of those sacks. it was the most skittish and indecisive i've ever seen him in the pocket. it was bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patriotsheatyan Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 Good QBs don’t get sacked 11 times. They get rid of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
footbull3196 Posted October 15, 2018 Author Share Posted October 15, 2018 8 hours ago, Oregon Ducks said: This is ridiculous. He’s been really good this year, even with crappy WRs, a crap running game, and an overrated Oline. Oh yeah, he’s also got a messed up hand. You really gonna judge him on a game when he was sacked 11 times and led the team in rushing with 25 yards (on 2 attempts)? Lol it took 3 pages but finally someone rushed in here to defend him. I cannot believe you actually stooped this low for this. We're not judging him off of yesterday's game, we're judging him off the last season and a half where he's clearly regressed. No amount of excuses can change that fact Lol, "crappy wide receivers" and "overrated o line". Not like they used a top 5 pick on a receiver or multiple top 10 picks on offensive tackles or just signed their LT to a massive extension.... Oh wait Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedyg Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 he just needs to play Jacksonville every week and he'll be alright Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candyman93 Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 I thought he’d be able to protect the football at an elite level coming out of college. The interceptions have surprised me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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