raidr4life Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 6 hours ago, Frankie2Gunz said: Which is laughable. Diggs is twice the WR Cooper is. After 1 good game people are doubting the trade. It was a good move to get rid of Cooper and the 17 he will demand after the year. He would do the same thing with us, 1 big game then disappear for a few in a row. Yeah ok he just got there and is learning the offense, the cowboys have got there big 3 again and will use Coop more than we ever did, Carr not throwing to Coop is not him disappearing it was us not targeting our #1 wr at least 10 times a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_palooka Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 4 hours ago, raidr4life said: Yeah ok he just got there and is learning the offense, the cowboys have got there big 3 again and will use Coop more than we ever did, Carr not throwing to Coop is not him disappearing it was us not targeting our #1 wr at least 10 times a game. lol... there big 3. Dak is a middling starter, not a franchise QB. He's getting by based on Elliots ability to take over games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dante9876 Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 1 hour ago, big_palooka said: lol... there big 3. Dak is a middling starter, not a franchise QB. He's getting by based on Elliots ability to take over games. Troy aikman was kinda close to same thing. Emmitt and oline. Dak will be the worst individual player of the big 3 just like Aikman was. Yes Aikmam is better, but its just about the same scenario Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayRaider Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 7 hours ago, raidr4life said: Yeah ok he just got there and is learning the offense, the cowboys have got there big 3 again and will use Coop more than we ever did, Carr not throwing to Coop is not him disappearing it was us not targeting our #1 wr at least 10 times a game. Are you trying to suggest Cooper is as good as Diggs...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raidr4life Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 1 hour ago, BayRaider said: Are you trying to suggest Cooper is as good as Diggs...? Yup, he will get his targets and he will put up the numbers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raidr4life Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 4 hours ago, big_palooka said: lol... there big 3. Dak is a middling starter, not a franchise QB. He's getting by based on Elliots ability to take over games. Well that's there latest version of there big 3 and top RB's have been big the last few years and we should draft one in the first round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayRaider Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 16 minutes ago, raidr4life said: Yup, he will get his targets and he will put up the numbers! To each his own, Diggs is a monster who can make incredible catches you won’t see Amari make. Amari Route Running and YAC 10/10 Spectactular Catch/In Traffic 4/10 Diggs Route Running and YAC 9/10 Diggs Spectacular Catch:In Traffic 8/10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_palooka Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 3 hours ago, dante9876 said: Troy aikman was kinda close to same thing. Emmitt and oline. Dak will be the worst individual player of the big 3 just like Aikman was. Yes Aikmam is better, but its just about the same scenario Aikman is a HOF QB. They were all great players. Dak isn't a great player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drfrey13 Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 1 hour ago, big_palooka said: Aikman is a HOF QB. They were all great players. Dak isn't a great player. For the time period Aikman was a great QB. In today's game he would be considered a little better than Alex Smith even though Smith has the better stats and Aikman had the better surrounding cast. That is why what Marino did was so amazing to me. Maybe Aikman would have opened it up more with the rule changes that have greatly benefited the offense. So hard to judge QBs from different generations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dante9876 Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 1 hour ago, big_palooka said: Aikman is a HOF QB. They were all great players. Dak isn't a great player. Aikman was alex smith. This is why its hard to compare players in different generations. Dak doesnt have to be great or a hall of famer to be the 3rd piece of this big 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bitty 2.0 Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 32 minutes ago, drfrey13 said: For the time period Aikman was a great QB. In today's game he would be considered a little better than Alex Smith even though Smith has the better stats and Aikman had the better surrounding cast. That is why what Marino did was so amazing to me. Maybe Aikman would have opened it up more with the rule changes that have greatly benefited the offense. So hard to judge QBs from different generations. So you think the rule changes that allow WRs to run free down the field and limited hitting of the QBs is going to make a Hall of Fame QB from the 90s worse? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie2Gunz Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 13 hours ago, riceman80 said: You seem bitter cuz Diggs isn't twice the receiver Coop is. Coop is bigger, stronger, faster(altho prob not quicker), and runs just as good of routes(both are excellent in that area). And it's not one good game. Its 2 good games and 1 monster game out of 4 games. The disappearing act youre referring to was a game in which coverage was shifted toward him and Zeke had 30 touches. He's played better for them in 4 games then he did in the last year plus for us. And im pretty sure he hasnt had a drop since he got there either. He's got Dak throwing to him in a run first offense called by Scott Linehan and he's producing way more than when he was still with us. Im happy for Coop. To me it says alot about Gruden's offense and in particular, his chemistry(or lack thereof) with Carr. I have nothing to be bitter about I am pleased we gave up Cooper who will demand 17 plus million and we got a first round pick for him. He deserves no where close to 17 a year and his career numbers indicate exactly that. Do you even watch or understand football? Cooper before this last game averaged 56 yards and had 1 td over 3 games with Dallas. Hardly elite numbers SMH Diggs skillset is far superior to Cooper and it's not close. Diggs has far superior hands, is tough going over the middle, makes spectacular catches on the regular and is a top notch route runner. Diggs is a stud, flat out. Cooper for being a bigger WR plays soft, has issues with catching the ball and is not consistent at all, especially on deep balls or in the red zone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayRaider Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 Did someone say Cooper is stronger than Diggs? Lol whatttt. Cooper is a pure route running YAC type receiver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humble_Beast Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 guess the right pick was really Leonard Williams.. wonder what would happened if we drafted Big Kat who really wanted to be a Raider....Mack would have been more happy we spent more attention to defense, and prolly would have been more of a monster with interior presence.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJ Raider Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 Diggs was a second rounder too, right? That would have been a nice haul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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