Kiwibrown Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 49 dead. 48 others with gun shot wounds and 20 critical. I'm shocked this could happen here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistakey Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 glad you and horny are safe and hope all those around you are as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mega Ron Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 It might be something that pushes people to understand that there is no us and them with regards religion. There's just us and them with regards nutters. Peace and love NZ brothers and sisters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 39 minutes ago, Mega Ron said: It might be something that pushes people to understand that there is no us and them with regards religion. I doubt it, religious beliefs have been the a driving factor behind a lot of killings for millennia. Cant say I see that changing any time soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mega Ron Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 15 minutes ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said: I doubt it, religious beliefs have been the a driving factor behind a lot of killings for millennia. Cant say I see that changing any time soon. I meant in NZ. They're a bit better than most of us. And a lot better than you lot 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 1 minute ago, Mega Ron said: I meant in NZ. They're a bit better than most of us. And a lot better than you lot Fair. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckeyesNut0623 Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 This thread is : Is that the light at the end of the tunnel? My answer is: That is not a light, that is Beetlejuice (for those of you who don't watch the science channel that is the name of the biggest star in our Milky Way galaxy). All these GM's with their 5 year plans just need to take a page from the Great John Dorsey's playbook cause he was able to turn around a winless team in 2017 to a SB contender and definitely a playoff team in 2019. We should start a Go Fund Me for Mr. Dorsey so he can get himself a nice steak dinner (but knowing Browns fans we would prob raise enough to get him a whole steak restaurant lol) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 18 minutes ago, buckeyesNut0623 said: All these GM's with their 5 year plans just need to take a page from the Great John Dorsey's playbook cause he was able to turn around a winless team in 2017 to a SB contender and definitely a playoff team in 2019. Step 1: Hire this guy: Step 2: Tank and Tank Again ...all while stockpiling as many draft assets as possible and utilizing tradebacks and then hitting on the #1 overall pick Step 3: Have said genius throw himself on a grenade for the good of the organization/franchise and become the fall guy Step 4: Get hired and then utilize those assets given to you in a competent way 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 34 minutes ago, buckeyesNut0623 said: This thread is : Is that the light at the end of the tunnel? My answer is: That is not a light, that is Beetlejuice (for those of you who don't watch the science channel that is the name of the biggest star in our Milky Way galaxy). All these GM's with their 5 year plans just need to take a page from the Great John Dorsey's playbook cause he was able to turn around a winless team in 2017 to a SB contender and definitely a playoff team in 2019. We should start a Go Fund Me for Mr. Dorsey so he can get himself a nice steak dinner (but knowing Browns fans we would prob raise enough to get him a whole steak restaurant lol) You act like Dorsey cleaned this all up himself 😂 I’m curious as to how you think he earned all those top 65 draft picks last year or the 9 figures in cap space? Whether some folks want to admit it or not, Sashi did a lot of the heavy lifting on this rebuild. Myles, Ogunjobi, Schobert, Njoku, Peppers (who allowed Dorsey to nab OBJ), Higgins, Tretter, Zeitler, Nassib, etc were all Sashi. So were the picks that allowed us to draft Ward and Chubb and trade for a veteran QB. The abilty to make the crazy trades and sign these free agents? That’s partly because Sashi took the league’s most expensive defense and gutted the terrible contracts. Not sure why it’s so hard to give more than one person credit.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas5737 Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 9 minutes ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said: You act like Dorsey cleaned this all up himself 😂 I’m curious as to how you think he earned all those top 65 draft picks last year or the 9 figures in cap space? Whether some folks want to admit it or not, Sashi did a lot of the heavy lifting on this rebuild. Myles, Ogunjobi, Schobert, Njoku, Peppers (who allowed Dorsey to nab OBJ), Higgins, Tretter, Zeitler, Nassib, etc were all Sashi. So were the picks that allowed us to draft Ward and Chubb and trade for a veteran QB. The abilty to make the crazy trades and sign these free agents? That’s partly because Sashi took the league’s most expensive defense and gutted the terrible contracts. Not sure why it’s so hard to give more than one person credit.... It was a perfect unintended plan. The perfect tear down by Sashi in 2 years and as good as you could ever expect 2 years from Dorsey getting the franchise QB and adding pieces of need. Pretty sure Kirksey and Bitonio are the only pre-Sashi players left on the roster. I don't know if Dorsey could have done stage one as well as Sashi or if Sashi could have done stage two as well as Dorsey so I'm thrilled this is how it ended up going. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 1 minute ago, Thomas5737 said: It was a perfect unintended plan. The perfect tear down by Sashi in 2 years and as good as you could ever expect 2 years from Dorsey getting the franchise QB and adding pieces of need. Pretty sure Kirksey and Bitonio are the only pre-Sashi players left on the roster. I don't know if Dorsey could have done stage one as well as Sashi or if Sashi could have done stage two as well as Dorsey so I'm thrilled this is how it ended up going. No, I agree, it’s been a fantastic ride. Maybe I’m alone in this but the lows of the proper rebuild will make the highs of the final product that much sweeter. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candyman93 Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 I understood the process, but damn man. We went 0-16. That’s inexcusable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 5 minutes ago, candyman93 said: I understood the process, but damn man. We went 0-16. That’s inexcusable The poor record was planned, the winless portion I’m sure was not. I think last year should give you a pretty good indication of what the issue was. First 8 game so under Hue were just more trash, last 8 we looked downright scary at times. Not sure what could have painted a clearer picture as to how much Hue’s incompetence impacted the previous two season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said: The poor record was planned, the winless portion I’m sure was not. I think last year should give you a pretty good indication of what the issue was. First 8 game so under Hue were just more trash, last 8 we looked downright scary at times. Not sure what could have painted a clearer picture as to how much Hue’s incompetence impacted the previous two season. Challenge accepted: Dare I comment? Doesn't know the situation IN OVERTIME. Even the guy next to him is shuddering in the corner No words This one is somehow WORSE. It looks like my grandmother when she had dementia (I'm serious here) trying to find her keys (after we took them from her) Edited March 15, 2019 by MWil23 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckeyesNut0623 Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 3 hours ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said: You act like Dorsey cleaned this all up himself 😂 I’m curious as to how you think he earned all those top 65 draft picks last year or the 9 figures in cap space? Whether some folks want to admit it or not, Sashi did a lot of the heavy lifting on this rebuild. Myles, Ogunjobi, Schobert, Njoku, Peppers (who allowed Dorsey to nab OBJ), Higgins, Tretter, Zeitler, Nassib, etc were all Sashi. So were the picks that allowed us to draft Ward and Chubb and trade for a veteran QB. The abilty to make the crazy trades and sign these free agents? That’s partly because Sashi took the league’s most expensive defense and gutted the terrible contracts. Not sure why it’s so hard to give more than one person credit.... I have nothing against Sashi but there is no way that you can say he had the football savvy to pull off a lot of the trades Dorsey did and also he has done 15 trades over the last 15 months. I've never heard of a team doing that many trades and turning over that many players in my life (maybe Jimmy Johnson when he 1st got to Dallas but I don't even think that was this many). Did he get us a lot of draft picks? Yes, absolutely. Would I have expected the results that Dorsey has gotten from those said pick? Absolutely not. Jmo but I don't think Brown was a great talent evaluator. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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