buno67 Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 3 hours ago, Dawgpoun8017 said: I can’t see how we hire Gase especially with the fallout he and Jarvis had Yeah i forgot about that. I remember him having issues with management not giving him a new deal. Landry had no issue complaining about Gase when he came to the Browns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 18 minutes ago, buno67 said: Yeah i forgot about that. I remember him having issues with management not giving him a new deal. Landry had no issue complaining about Gase when he came to the Browns. Which is odd as it seems as if Gase force fed him the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mind Character Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 Again, A good Coordinator does not necessarily make a good Head Coach. Freddie Kitchens has proven to be a good OC within a small sample size, but off the strength of his OC performance alone he does not necessarily deserve a Head Coach interview. The NFL's one track mindset of promoting OCs or DCs to HC assuming that they'll make good HCs often misses out on great teachers and CEO types that have primarily served as position coaches, quality control coaches, and/or special teams coordinators. Our next HC hire needs to accomplish the following 2 things imo: 1.) Maintain shortterm continuity of our OC (and possibly other coaches) to continue the football progression of our young players. 2.) Be a longterm solution CEO leader of the organization with the ability to hold players accountable, inspire men to give next level commitment, and be at the cutting edge of coaching philosophy, player/coach management & development. ---------- Josh Mcdaniels nor does Adam Gase accomplishes that I think when it's all said and done it comes down to Mike Munchak, Gregg Williams, Pat Fitzgerald, and Dave Toub. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReggieCamp Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 6 minutes ago, Mind Character said: Again, A good Coordinator does not necessarily make a good Head Coach. Freddie Kitchens has proven to be a good OC within a small sample size, but off the strength of his OC performance alone he does not necessarily deserve a Head Coach interview. The NFL's one track mindset of promoting OCs or DCs to HC assuming that they'll make good HCs often misses out on great teachers and CEO types that have primarily served as position coaches, quality control coaches, and/or special teams coordinators. Our next HC hire needs to accomplish the following 2 things imo: 1.) Maintain shortterm continuity of our OC (and possibly other coaches) to continue the football progression of our young players. 2.) Be a longterm solution CEO leader of the organization with the ability to hold players accountable, inspire men to give next level commitment, and be at the cutting edge of coaching philosophy, player/coach management & development. ---------- Josh Mcdaniels nor does Adam Gase accomplishes that I think when it's all said and done it comes down to Mike Munchak, Gregg Williams, Pat Fitzgerald, and Dave Toub. Not sure I agree with all of this, but I am completely with you on McDaniels and Gase. I don't see how they fit here at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReggieCamp Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 43 minutes ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said: Which is odd as it seems as if Gase force fed him the ball. This article explains it pretty well: https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2788367-jarvis-landry-rips-dolphins-culture-begged-adam-gase-for-bigger-route-tree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 12 minutes ago, ReggieCamp said: This article explains it pretty well: https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2788367-jarvis-landry-rips-dolphins-culture-begged-adam-gase-for-bigger-route-tree Eh, I see his point but tbh it seems like Gase knew his skill set pretty well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReggieCamp Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 3 minutes ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said: Eh, I see his point but tbh it seems like Gase knew his skill set pretty well. Yeah, from a football standpoint, I see what Gase was doing, and I have no problem with it. No doubt that Jarvis has some diva in him (he's a WR after all), but I'd still find it hard to believe that Buddy Boy would hire Gase after this. I actually think Gase is a good X's and O's coach, but I'm not sure about his leadership abilities. Honestly, I think Miami will keep him anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReggieCamp Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 If we manage to beat the Ravens on Sunday, Gregg has a legit chance. I can't believe I typed that previous sentence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 6 minutes ago, ReggieCamp said: If we manage to beat the Ravens on Sunday, Gregg has a legit chance. I can't believe I typed that previous sentence. If we win I can’t see him not getting the job unless Dorsey makes an absolute splash hire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NudeTayne Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 35 minutes ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said: If we win I can’t see him not getting the job unless Dorsey makes an absolute splash hire. #tayneforHC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 29 minutes ago, NudeTayne said: #tayneforHC Long as I get some good seats comped, I’ll co-sign this hire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NudeTayne Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 8 minutes ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said: Long as I get some good seats comped, I’ll co-sign this hire. I got you 👌. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bosko1616 Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 If we beat the Ravens the only guys I see beating out Gregg is Riley,McVay,Dabo,Saban but I do see some quality coordinators coming over as possible position coach’s or to replace Amos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buno67 Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 4 hours ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said: Which is odd as it seems as if Gase force fed him the ball. Well going back and reading it, he didn’t like it that he was forced feed only short stuff and it got him labeled as a guy who can only do certain things. Believe he said he hated the route tree he was given. It was a debate here if Landry could even be used as a down the field WR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdrawkcab321 Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 If Matt Patricia gets fired any interest in him for DC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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