JaguarCrazy2832 Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 9 minutes ago, ninjapirate said: people think eli manning will and hes way better than eli so he should Oh come on you know why Eli is getting in. He has 2 rings and much better playoff prowess than Rivers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rich homie Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 He doesn't quite have the celebrity, so he would have to Curtis Martin his way in. Based purely on his play though he absolutely should be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingseanjohn Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 He's one of the better QBs of our generation but that's it. He isn't one of the best players of all time. Game is on the line I feel like he'd throw a pick before TD. I could see him getting in way down the line. But right now there's so many players more deserving that should be in ahead of him. As others said, he'll sneak in like Curtis Martin and others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H.E Pennypacker Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 There are very few quarterbacks who have been better than Rivers from 2006-now. Brady, Brees, PManning, Favre if we include him, Rodgers, possibly Ben. Anyone else? All of those guys are locks for the HOF. If Rivers misses out he will be the best QB of the last 20 years to not make the HOF and possibly the last 30+ years. If he doesn't get a ring, he will go down as the 2nd best QB without a ring after Marino? (Im not that familiar with the NFL pre 2000s so correct me if I'm wrong). I hope he gets the championship he deserves and cements his status. Sure I'm bias as a Charger fan but I'm 100% happy we ended up with him in '04. Take away the organisations they were drafted into. On pure QB play it goes Rivers > Ben > Eli Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siv Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 I think he will get in at some point. And I think he deserves to. A Super Bowl for him would be sweet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninjapirate Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 52 minutes ago, JaguarCrazy2832 said: Oh come on you know why Eli is getting in. He has 2 rings and much better playoff prowess than Rivers winning the superbowl doesnt mean he wasnt bad his whole career Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaguarCrazy2832 Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 42 minutes ago, ninjapirate said: winning the superbowl doesnt mean he wasnt bad his whole career Winning them the way he did played a big part in it. He beat quite possibly the greatest team in NFL history when no one gave them a snowballs chance in hell. He beat the GOAT twice on the biggest stage of them all. I know he obviously did it with help but I think that has to play a big role in that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patriotsheatyan Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 I think the people voting no don’t realize how different standards are for QBs compared to most other positions. He will have eight pro bowls by the end of this season and likely ten by the time he retires. If he retires top five in yards and touchdowns, top ten in wins, with ten pro bowl appearances, has seven playoff appeances, and the second longest start streak in history he is a shoe in at his position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddyboy Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 One of the attributes of the Canton/Cooperstown comparison, the NFL has been far more inclusive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingseanjohn Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 3 hours ago, H.E Pennypacker said: If he doesn't get a ring, he will go down as the 2nd best QB without a ring after Marino? I don't know if I'd say 2nd best. Here's a list of some of QBs to never win a ring: Jim Kelly, Warren Moon, Frank Tarkenton, Dan Fouts, Randall Cunningham, Donovan McNabb, Steve McNair, Boomer Esiason, Sonny Jurgensen, Tony Romo, Doug Flutie, Jay Cutler, Archie Manning, Rich Gannon, Otto Graham, and Drew Bledsoe among many others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Joffrey Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 The way I see it, you either put him and Eli both in or you don't put either in. Rivers is obviously better but didn't have a SB run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riceman80 Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 2 hours ago, King Joffrey said: The way I see it, you either put him and Eli both in or you don't put either in. Rivers is obviously better but didn't have a SB run. If not for a torn ACL and a team decimated by injury, i believe he would have one. They lost to the Pats in Foxboro by 9 with Rivers and Gates on one leg and no LT plus Hardwick and Merriman were hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninjapirate Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 5 hours ago, JaguarCrazy2832 said: Winning them the way he did played a big part in it. He beat quite possibly the greatest team in NFL history when no one gave them a snowballs chance in hell. He beat the GOAT twice on the biggest stage of them all. I know he obviously did it with help but I think that has to play a big role in that his teams scored 20 and 17 in those games not exactly great offensive performances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H.E Pennypacker Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 7 hours ago, kingseanjohn said: I don't know if I'd say 2nd best. Here's a list of some of QBs to never win a ring: Jim Kelly, Warren Moon, Frank Tarkenton, Dan Fouts, Randall Cunningham, Donovan McNabb, Steve McNair, Boomer Esiason, Sonny Jurgensen, Tony Romo, Doug Flutie, Jay Cutler, Archie Manning, Rich Gannon, Otto Graham, and Drew Bledsoe among many others. Cutler Kelly, Tarkenton and Fouts I think are the only guys you can make a case for. So maybe we'll go with top 5 for now. He's got 3-4 years left to cement his place so I think it's all about how he ends his career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancerman Posted November 10, 2018 Author Share Posted November 10, 2018 11 hours ago, ninjapirate said: people think eli manning will and hes way better than eli so he should Most people think Eli will but don’t think he should Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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