patriotsheatyan Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 Good? Bad? Overrated? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOTN-93 Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 1 hour ago, patriotsheatyan said: Good? Bad? Overrated? Hard to say with Jimmy getting hurt so early but from afar it feels like hes getting decent play from a roster that still isnt very good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 He's doing a lot with a little in terms of a roster. Had some of the guys they invested in not been injured (Jimmy G, Jerick McKinnon) there could be a better assessment. I'm more concerned with John Lynch, TBH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJerseypaint Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 I think he's a better HC than Sean McVay. He just has had bad luck with injuries. Once Jimmy G comes back the NFC West is going to be the most fun division to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFlaccoSeagulls Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 8 minutes ago, NJerseypaint said: I think he's a better HC than Sean McVay. He just has had bad luck with injuries. Once Jimmy G comes back the NFC West is going to be the most fun division to watch. The Niners weren't exactly setting the world on fire with Jimmy G at QB, either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-ALL-DAY Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 10 minutes ago, NJerseypaint said: I think he's a better HC than Sean McVay. He just has had bad luck with injuries. Once Jimmy G comes back the NFC West is going to be the most fun division to watch. Not sure how one can say he is better than Sean McVay. I mean he may one day prove that to be the case, but certainly there has been nothing to indicate that. McVay is working with a lot more talent, but he's hardly had any missteps. When SF gets more talent then we will be able to properly evaluate Shanahan. His constant RZ woes is worrisome though, needs to fix that this offseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdrawkcab321 Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 Not good. Not bad. Just like his father. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FinSting Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 Kyle reminds me of Adam Gase. You think he might be a half-decent coach, but when half the roster is on IR, how can you tell with all those backup players on the field? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSURacerDT55 Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 Outstanding playcaller, meh as a leader of men. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVillain112 Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 I think he's good. Just needs time and a healthy roster... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patriotsheatyan Posted November 28, 2018 Author Share Posted November 28, 2018 What do we think of the loses to Arizona and NY? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJerseypaint Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 1 hour ago, AFlaccoSeagulls said: The Niners weren't exactly setting the world on fire with Jimmy G at QB, either. 5-0 after a midseason trade? His start this season wasn't as spectacular, but 3 games is small sample. With Jimmy G, I think the 49ers get 4-5 (LAC, ARIx2, GB, NYG, TB) more wins. 1 hour ago, J-ALL-DAY said: Not sure how one can say he is better than Sean McVay. I mean he may one day prove that to be the case, but certainly there has been nothing to indicate that. McVay is working with a lot more talent, but he's hardly had any missteps. When SF gets more talent then we will be able to properly evaluate Shanahan. His constant RZ woes is worrisome though, needs to fix that this offseason. I think McVay is a great HC and I definitely can't provide any objective reasoning to say KS >McVay, but I think KS is going to shine once he gets his QB for a whole season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrry32 Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 3 hours ago, NJerseypaint said: I think he's a better HC than Sean McVay. He just has had bad luck with injuries. Once Jimmy G comes back the NFC West is going to be the most fun division to watch. That's a mighty tall mountain to climb. He didn't inherit a significantly worse team. I think Kyle Shanahan is a good coach, but I don't think he has the respect around the NFL that McVay does or McVay's humility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJerseypaint Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 16 minutes ago, jrry32 said: That's a mighty tall mountain to climb. He didn't inherit a significantly worse team. I think Kyle Shanahan is a good coach, but I don't think he has the respect around the NFL that McVay does or McVay's humility. Yes he did. Rams have Donald and Gurley and those two are significantly better than any of the talent the 49ers have. Not to mention that McVay has had a healthy QB for two straight seasons. Kyle got his QB mid season last year and this year the dude got injured game 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrry32 Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 31 minutes ago, NJerseypaint said: Yes he did. Rams have Donald and Gurley and those two are significantly better than any of the talent the 49ers have. Not to mention that McVay has had a healthy QB for two straight seasons. Kyle got his QB mid season last year and this year the dude got injured game 3. Goff and Gurley weren't being hyped up as elite pieces when McVay joined. Here's what each guy inherited: McVay - LAR QB: Jared Goff HB: Todd Gurley WR: Kenny Britt WR: Brian Quick WR: Tavon Austin TE: Lance Kendricks LT: Greg Robinson LG: Rodger Saffold C: Tim Barnes RG: Cody Wichmann RT: Rob Havenstein No First Round Pick (traded for Goff) Shanahan - SF QB: Colin Kaepernick HB: Carlos Hyde WR: Jeremy Kerley WR: Quinton Patton WR: Torrey Smith TE: Vance McDonald LT: Joe Staley LG: Zane Beadles C: Daniel Kilgore RG: Joshua Garnett RT: Trent Brown #3 overall pick We now know that Goff and Gurley are superstars, but both were coming off terrible seasons when McVay took over. His coaching and scheme have at least partially helped them become the players they are today. Further, Kromer's coaching helped Jamon Brown, Rob Havenstein, and Rodger Saffold all play quality or better football after struggling in 2016. Meanwhile, Carlos Hyde was coming off a pretty good season. The 49ers had the ability to draft either Deshaun Watson or Patrick Mahomes at #3. They had a TE in Vance McDonald who has emerged as a good TE this year. They had book-end OTs. Say what you will but McVay elevated the useful talent on the Rams and drafted/signed/traded for a lot of offensive talent in a short period of time. We signed Robert Woods to a reasonable contract, we traded for Sammy and Cooks, we drafted Kupp, Reynolds, and Everett, we plucked Blythe off waivers, we spent a bunch of money on Whitworth, we signed Sullivan for nothing, and we cut loose a lot of deadweight. Yes, Jimmy being out is a big part of your problems, but you guys started 1-2 even with Jimmy. Plus, you could have Mahomes or Watson right now and chose otherwise. Shanahan walked into a situation where he could choose his QB. We'll see if Jimmy was the right choice. But part of your lack of talent when compared to the Rams is that y'all have made worse choices than us. And frankly, Shanahan hasn't done as good of a job maximizing the talent he had originally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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