DoleINGout Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 Jared Cook gets an honerable mention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyMossIsBoss Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 On 12/8/2018 at 12:33 PM, Yin-Yang said: A part of what separated Gronk from the rest was his ability to block like a 6th linemen. It depends on your scheme, but having a tight end that is an elite pass catcher and an elite blocker (both running and passing) is incredibly valuable and certainly effects the run game. That's why Gronk is the GOAT... but generally speaking, and look around the league at most TEs, as the above poster said you just need to be an adequate run blocker, and with the considerable size advantage they have over the men they are generally tasked with blocking (DBs, ocassionally LBs or double teaming) it really comes down to effort from what I've seen. Unless you are a real difference maker in the run game like Gronk, then it's pretty much a wash as far as I'm concerned, and I'm judging you primarily on your pass catching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmittyBacall Posted December 10, 2018 Author Share Posted December 10, 2018 8 hours ago, RandyMossIsBoss said: That's why Gronk is the GOAT... but generally speaking, and look around the league at most TEs, as the above poster said you just need to be an adequate run blocker, and with the considerable size advantage they have over the men they are generally tasked with blocking (DBs, ocassionally LBs or double teaming) it really comes down to effort from what I've seen. Unless you are a real difference maker in the run game like Gronk, then it's pretty much a wash as far as I'm concerned, and I'm judging you primarily on your pass catching. This is why I never thought Jordan Reed should be that high on TE lists. He's basically a receiver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammymvpknight Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 Kittle is racing to the list. He’s really good...like a young Dallas Clark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C0LTSFAN4L1F3 Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 37 minutes ago, sammymvpknight said: Kittle is racing to the list. He’s really good...like a young Dallas Clark Just like Dallas Clark except with physicality and athletic ability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheesehawk Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 On 12/10/2018 at 10:20 AM, C0LTSFAN4L1F3 said: Just like Dallas Clark except with physicality and athletic ability. And gloves. Dont forget the gloves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Ramster Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 I just wanna say. That me and a few miner homer fans were on the Kittle wagon before any of y’all. Hes what a consistent Cooks looks like. When I see a dude like ertz put up fake numbers I just see a Edelman type player. Not the fastest, strongest but a smart dude. But easily replaceable IMO. Just isn’t special at all IMO.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Ramster Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 On 12/10/2018 at 7:20 AM, C0LTSFAN4L1F3 said: Just like Dallas Clark except with physicality and athletic ability. Kittle blows Dallas out the water. Dallas Clark was a watered down version of Jason Witten. Kittle has Prime Gates play making ability and explosiveness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C0LTSFAN4L1F3 Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 1 hour ago, El ramster said: Kittle blows Dallas out the water. Dallas Clark was a watered down version of Jason Witten. Kittle has Prime Gates play making ability and explosiveness. I know I was making a joke. Somebody said "like a young Dallas Clark" and then I said "yeah just like Dallas Clark except for *insert actual good qualities here*" Obviously Dallas Clark doesn't hold a candle. We wouldn't even know his name if not for Peyton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
braylon Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 I still think Gronk is the second best TE in the league behind Kelce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammymvpknight Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 18 hours ago, braylon said: I still think Gronk is the second best TE in the league behind Kelce. Gronk ability to play defense knocks him below Ertz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanedorf Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 The true value of a TE in the NFL is that he's a double threat. Defenses know that a WR is there to catch passes and so you deploy your pass defense vs the WR For a good TE, the defense doesn't know if he's going out or setting up in pass pro or run blocking. That hesitation and moment of confusion is what confers the advantage to the TE position and good coaches use it to maximum effect. A TE who can "control" a DE at the point of attack is worth his weight in gold. A TE who just catches passes, is another WR on the field with some advantages in leverage and the ability to run over people. Fans and fantasy players love the pass catchers, but coaches love the dual threat guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Ramster Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 2 hours ago, Shanedorf said: The true value of a TE in the NFL is that he's a double threat. Defenses know that a WR is there to catch passes and so you deploy your pass defense vs the WR For a good TE, the defense doesn't know if he's going out or setting up in pass pro or run blocking. That hesitation and moment of confusion is what confers the advantage to the TE position and good coaches use it to maximum effect. A TE who can "control" a DE at the point of attack is worth his weight in gold. A TE who just catches passes, is another WR on the field with some advantages in leverage and the ability to run over people. Fans and fantasy players love the pass catchers, but coaches love the dual threat guys This is all fine for the 90s. Today’s game is much more diff. and it’s the QBs who has to sell the play not the TE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyle21121 Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 Hunter Henry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byrdbrane Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 Dallas Goedert and he is coming for the crown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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