NCOUGHMAN Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 1 hour ago, agarcia34 said: I had that thought after his poor combine. He is a 3-4 DE or a DT in a 4-3. Just like that Allen dude from bc last year 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayRaider Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 (edited) If Mayock feels confident in Murray, I’m on board. Said many times I trust Mayock more than anyone. That’s something we all agree on, we finally all have faith in our GM. My main con with Murray is my biggest personal pet peeve with Linebackers. His instincts leave a lot to he desired. Patrick Queen has much better natural instincts. Queen’s instincts with Murrays body, now we’re talkin... Edited March 10, 2020 by BayRaider 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blazer026 Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 I've saw a few Murray to Kevin Burnett comps. If that's the case I definitely wouldn't mind him at 19 if that's the kind of player he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 2 hours ago, OG_C2X said: Who do you think of when you think SAM LB? Mo Lewis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_palooka Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 11 hours ago, BayRaider said: Stats aside though, you are drafting Love for his phenomenal talent. Laser arm, tremendous accuracy, tremendous pocket presence, tremendous off-script ability, and has shown the ability to throw completely contorted, from weird body angles, and multiple arm slots, while still firing off accurate lasers. No one does this besides Mahomes/Rodgers (younger Rodgers). He’ll be hard to stop if he gets a good grasp of NFL defenses. This chart reads otherwise in all those areas. Suspect accuracy. Struggles when pressured. Throws a number of risky balls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 Humble I like Dye even though many said they didn't like what they saw I'm thinking... https://www.nbcsports.com/northwest/oregon-ducks/report-former-oregon-lb-troy-dye-played-multiple-games-torn-meniscus His stats are excellent and #1 ability is AVAILABILITY... Here's Fanspeaks currrent ranking of LB's I've heard about from FF in our and the draft forums. Add Uche (42) and Baun (28) Those two and Simmons, Queen and Murray are the ones expected to be gone by before the 3rd round... 3 LB ISAIAH SIMMONS - CLEMSON 16 LB PATRICK QUEEN - LSU 35 LB KENNETH MURRAY - OKLAHOMA 64 LB MALIK HARRISON - OHIO STATE 93 LB AKEEM DAVIS-GAITHER - APPALACHIAN STATE 95 LB LOGAN WILSON - WYOMING 105 LB JORDYN BROOKS - TEXAS TECH 113 LB JACOB PHILLIPS - LSU 115 LB WILLIE GAY JR. - MISSISSIPPI STATE 122 LB TROY DYE - OREGON 134 LB EVAN WEAVER - CALIFORNIA 155 LB CAM BROWN - PENN STATE 181 LB SHAQUILLE QUARTERMAN - MIAMI 191 LB SAGE LEWIS - FLORIDA INTERNATIONAL 194 LB JOE BACHIE - MICHIGAN STATE 216 LB MICHAEL DIVINITY JR. - LSU 240 LB MICHAEL PINCKNEY - MIAMI 245 LB CHRIS ORR - WISCONSIN 354 LB DAVID WOODWARD - UTAH STATE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayRaider Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, big_palooka said: This chart reads otherwise in all those areas. Suspect accuracy. Struggles when pressured. Throws a number of risky balls. Watch the game tape, his accuracy is money. Sure he throws a ton of risky throws. Risky throws is not “inaccuracy”. His coach has given him full control of the offense and encourages him to make plays since he has zero talent on his offensive roster. Obviously this will have a drastic affect on accuracy analytics. Yes? Have to look at substance. This is why analytics come no where even close to game tape. Edited March 11, 2020 by BayRaider Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agarcia34 Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 (edited) Am I the only one who thinks this draft ain’t gonna happen? Like the event part. Don’t see how the NFL can put all those fans together and risk it. Huge music festivals that gather hundred of thousands people got postponed . My money will be on the draft event not happening. Random late night thinking by me Edited March 11, 2020 by agarcia34 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humble_Beast Posted March 11, 2020 Author Share Posted March 11, 2020 really strong possibility.. bummer, I was planning on going to Coachella. More and more cases of corona/with no cure. People not dying but they don't want it to get worse. High probability there will be no event. Maybe just have players in a room in Vegas or something. Soccer games have had no fans, and NBA might do the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayRaider Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 37 minutes ago, agarcia34 said: Am I the only one who thinks this draft ain’t gonna happen? Like the event part. Don’t see how the NFL can put all those fans together and risk it. Huge music festivals that gather hundred of thousands people got postponed . My money will be on the draft event not happening. Random late night thinking by me 100% agree. Read my post in the NFL Gen thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bitty 2.0 Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 10 hours ago, BayRaider said: Because you brought up Loves conference and no great games against good teams when Carr is the excellent comparison here. Carr played in the same conference. Against the one ranked team they played, Carr faultered while Love played well. What’s hard to get why I brought him up? If you can’t take stats, don’t dish em out. I don’t want everything to become about Carr. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chali21 Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 (edited) 6 hours ago, agarcia34 said: Am I the only one who thinks this draft ain’t gonna happen? Like the event part. Don’t see how the NFL can put all those fans together and risk it. Huge music festivals that gather hundred of thousands people got postponed . My money will be on the draft event not happening. Random late night thinking by me It’s still a month away a lot can change. Besides Coachella is way different, last year i believe there was an outbreak of herpes there. That sort of thing doesn’t happen at the draft. Lol Edited March 11, 2020 by Chali21 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_palooka Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 9 hours ago, BayRaider said: Watch the game tape, his accuracy is money. Sure he throws a ton of risky throws. Risky throws is not “inaccuracy”. His coach has given him full control of the offense and encourages him to make plays since he has zero talent on his offensive roster. Obviously this will have a drastic affect on accuracy analytics. Yes? Have to look at substance. This is why analytics come no where even close to game tape. Ian Wharton a paid professional who is well respected in the field did EXACTLY that and conclusions... accuracy was suspect. You are IGNORING facts to fit your narrative (homerism). Further, you have no idea what his coaches asked him to do. That is a made up assumption based on nothing. Lastly, homerism is making consistent excuses and bending things to your favor in effort to encourage others to like a prospect. Or further calling his skill set "once in a blue moon" while ignoring he's not the best athlete in the QB class and doesn't have the best arm in the class. I like Love. I was among the first to talk about him in the forum (while you were jocking Eason who you completely flipped on). I can rationally look at his traits, while same time acknowledging his major flaws in accuracy, decision making and simplified college offense where he made 1 read. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_palooka Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 53 minutes ago, Chali21 said: It’s still a month away a lot can change. Besides Coachella is way different, last year i believe there was an outbreak of syphilis there. That sort of thing doesn’t happen at the draft. Lol It does if Simmons falls to 12 lol. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_palooka Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 Hey @BayRaider remember when you called Jacob Eason a younger modern day version of Kenny Stabler? Good times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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