ClutchDJ Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 OT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dome Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 Murray looks strong for a number of games before going down with an injury. Haskins will be alright, runs the offense good enough and will have room to grow. Jones will probably not do that well, but can only mess up so much handing off and passing to Barkley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 Daniel Jones: Benches Ridden, 11. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJerseypaint Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 I have a weird feeling Daniel Jones is going to do well. I never watched any of his tape, never checked in on his OTA and camp progress, but his story is too damn good to not work out for the Giants. As for the others - Murray is going get murdered in AZ and Haskins is going to have an Mayfield-like rookie season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReadyToThump Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 I'm struggling to see any real success with any of them in their rookie seasons. I think Murray is too talented as a passer/runner to not have some eventual success as long as he can avoid getting ragdolled on the daily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gmen Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 (edited) I predict Daniel Jones will start a nationwide restaurant chain with a menu designed around crow. Crow sandwiches. Crow soup. Crow sushi. Even crow tar tar, which is a delicacy in some parts. Dessert menu : Flaming bag o' poop topped with whipped cream Edited June 16, 2019 by Gmen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas5737 Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 45 minutes ago, Gmen said: I predict Daniel Jones will start a nationwide restaurant chain with a menu designed around crow. Crow sandwiches. Crow soup. Crow sushi. Even crow tar tar, which is a delicacy in some parts. Dessert menu : Flaming bag o' poop topped with whipped cream You were pretty high on Haskins there for awhile do you still like his outlook? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom cody Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 Haskins will be the best of the bunch by far. Murray and Jones will both struggle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanS Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 Daniel Jones = Kirk Cousins Kyler Murray = mini Michael Vick Dwayne Haskins = EJ Manuel Jones and Murray will be decent starting QBs. Haskins will be the bust. With regard to the rest of the class, I like Drew Lock, Jarrett Stidham, and Trace McSorely to develop into solid starters down the road. Lock and Stidham could even be Pro Bowlers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas5737 Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 8 minutes ago, VanS said: Daniel Jones = Kirk Cousins Kyler Murray = mini Michael Vick Dwayne Haskins = EJ Manuel Jones and Murray will be decent starting QBs. Haskins will be the bust. With regard to the rest of the class, I like Drew Lock, Jarrett Stidham, and Trace McSorely to develop into solid starters down the road. Lock and Stidham could even be Pro Bowlers. McSorely a solid starter and Hasklins a bust? Did you watch the Big Ten at all? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie man Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 Murray is going to ball out hes going to have some games where he makes some BAD throws/decisions but he’s going to be electrifying and will definitely will win some games with that roster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanS Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 3 hours ago, Thomas5737 said: McSorely a solid starter and Hasklins a bust? Did you watch the Big Ten at all? I watched enough. McSorely has mobility and that "it" factor. He reminds me of Jim McMahon ('85 Bears Super Bowl winning QB). He's gonna be a baller. Haskins has no mobility and his college success was largely a byproduct of Ohio State having more talent than their opponents in every game he played. He doesn't have the tools to suceed when his team isn't overwhelmingly better than the opposition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas5737 Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 21 minutes ago, VanS said: I watched enough. McSorely has mobility and that "it" factor. He reminds me of Jim McMahon ('85 Bears Super Bowl winning QB). He's gonna be a baller. Haskins has no mobility and his college success was largely a byproduct of Ohio State having more talent than their opponents in every game he played. He doesn't have the tools to suceed when his team isn't overwhelmingly better than the opposition. If the "it" factor means the "Tebow" factor I agree. Similar skillset. Haskins is mobile for an average NFL QB. He isn't quick but for a pocket passer you don't have to be you just need to slide. The best tool for a QB is an accurate arm and he has that and McSorely doesn't and if you don't believe that then you are McSorely mistaken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTTRDynasty Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 1 hour ago, VanS said: I watched enough. McSorely has mobility and that "it" factor. He reminds me of Jim McMahon ('85 Bears Super Bowl winning QB). He's gonna be a baller. Haskins has no mobility and his college success was largely a byproduct of Ohio State having more talent than their opponents in every game he played. He doesn't have the tools to suceed when his team isn't overwhelmingly better than the opposition. What are the tools to succeed, in your opinion? Obviously you’re big on mobility. What else? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanS Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, HTTRG3Dynasty said: What are the tools to succeed, in your opinion? Obviously you’re big on mobility. What else? Making something out of nothing. Can you make a play when the protection isn't perfect and your receivers are easily getting open? Can you do something beyond what the coach schemes open? One of the biggest mistakes people make when evaluating players is they use the results to judge the player. For example, most people right now think Jared Goff is a great QB because of the stats he's put up and the fact his team has won a lot of games. When in reality you could put many a QB who are less highly thought of in his position and they would have just as much if not more success if you gave them the players and coaches around Goff. The Super Bowl (in my opinion) exposed Jared Goff as insanely overrated. Bill Belichek essentially forced Goff to play without Sean McVay telling him where to go with the ball before the snap. And we all saw what that resulted in. One of the most inept offensive performances in Super Bowl history. I'm not saying you need mobility. Peyton Manning had no mobility but he's one of the smartest minds to ever play the game and he essentially dissected the defense before the snap every play. He lifted and carried his teams with that ability. I give credit to players who perform beyond what the coach makes possible or the talent around him. Its why I value a guy like Cam Newton (who might not have the sexiest passing stats) higher than most. No matter what you think of Cam's ability as a passer, you have to admit that he carries his team to wins. You can't say its the offensive coordinator or the offensive line/running backs making Cam Newton look good. His skills are what results in his team's success. Edited June 17, 2019 by VanS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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