MantyWrestler Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 34 minutes ago, deathstar said: Uh you asked me nothing. Kizer’s footwork, pocket manipulation, and decision making, especially when to tuck it and what read to hit, have all improved. His deep shots all preseason have been on the mark or so the D can’t get it, whereas in 2017 he would chuck it up like Joe Webb in MN. Your point has been extremely clear: anything but Kizer regardless of on the field performance. No way. When the pocket collapses it’s either a scramble or an incompletion. He gets rattled a little and his footwork falls apart. Both can throw with a clean pocket but so can a ton of other NFL backups. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deathstar Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 7 minutes ago, MantyWrestler said: No way. When the pocket collapses it’s either a scramble or an incompletion. He gets rattled a little and his footwork falls apart. Both can throw with a clean pocket but so can a ton of other NFL backups. Your statement doesn’t disagree with mine; he’s improved from 2017 in this regard. You said it yourself - scramble or incompletion, in 2017 it was interception. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugger Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 6 hours ago, boratt said: Kizer played well for the first time yesterday. I thought his mobility gave him an edge over Boyle. But Boyle has been more consistent and definitely looks more in command and under control. Its close. Kizer for upside, Boyle for steadiness and reliability. I don't think either one of them should be Rodgers' backup unfortunately. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donzo Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 (edited) 17 hours ago, Cakeshoppe said: Every cut I've seen so far with sources: Tommy Bohanon - https://twitter.com/ByRyanWood/status/1167508655224315904 Jocquez Kalili - https://twitter.com/JimOwczarski/status/1167475123944923136 Teo Redding - https://twitter.com/BillHuberSI/status/1167481233431023617 Brady Sheldon - https://twitter.com/BillHuberSI/status/1167481233431023617 Pharoah McKever - https://twitter.com/JimOwczarski/status/1167491043866136578 Gerhard de Beer - https://twitter.com/debeer67/status/1167475939539914752 Dejon Allen - https://twitter.com/ByRyanWood/status/1167491765416407040 Malik Tayler - https://twitter.com/JimOwczarski/status/1167481388091789312 Anthony Coyle - https://twitter.com/BillHuberSI/status/1167482193662418944 Jackson Porter - https://twitter.com/ByRyanWood/status/1167498649821208582 Deon Simon - https://twitter.com/ByRyanWood/status/1167498649821208582 Malcolm Johnson - https://twitter.com/mattschneidman/status/1167498191740243968 Tray Matthews - https://twitter.com/ByRyanWood/status/1167521279643197442 Nydair Rouse - https://twitter.com/ByRyanWood/status/1167518458814324736 Greg Roberts and Ibraheim Campbell- PUP Looks like about 21 more to get to 53 Updated: 8/31 715 AM Edited August 31, 2019 by Donzo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainmaker90 Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 I cannot wait until this backup QB talk is over. Either way, Boyle or Kizer we’re screwed so there’s no point talking about it. I’d literally rather talk about the K competition, which has more relevance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexGreen#20 Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Seems like there might be about 10 no brainer's left. Then this starts getting difficult. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boratt Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 (edited) Rodgers Jones Williams Williams Vitale Adams MVS Allison Davis Bakh Taylor Linsley Turner Bulaga Jenkins Light Patrick Graham Tonyan Sternberger 20 on offense. About 5 more will be kept from the bubble Bubble guys Cole Madison Justin McCray Shep, Lazard, Kumerow Tra Carson Kizer Boyle Mercedes Clark Adams Lowry Lancaster Keke Smith Smith Fackrell Gary Martinez Burks Summers Savage Amos Greene Alexander King Brown Williams Hollman 20 guys. Maybe 5 to choose from, from the bubble Bubble guys Brown, Looney Redmond, Sullivan, Jackson Crawford Ramsey Edited August 31, 2019 by boratt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chili Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 (edited) 39 minutes ago, AlexGreen#20 said: Seems like there might be about 10 no brainer's left. Then this starts getting difficult. Jamerson, Ento, Folston, M.Jones, Ramsey, Sagapolu, Bayliss, Nijman, Wilkins, Ford, Moore - Easy Cuts [11] Redmond, Sullivan, F.Brown, Looney, Summers, Crawford, Bolton, Shepherd, Lazard, EQ, Pankey, McCray, Patrick, Madison, Lewis, Carson, D.Williams, Boyle, Kizer, Crosby, Fricken - On the bubble [21] I count 41 roster locks with 12 roster spots remaining. Out of those 21 players 9 will be cut. Yikes. That will be a tough 9 cuts. It can be made easier by IR some players but by doing so they would be out for the season with no recall. One smart play could be to cut Lewis. When the 53 is finalised we IR a couple of players and then bring back Lewis. I don't think teams are going to go clamoring for a 35 years old blocking TE off waivers especially considering he barely played last year and this preseason. Edited August 31, 2019 by Chili Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent502 Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 1 hour ago, Rainmaker90 said: I cannot wait until this backup QB talk is over. Either way, Boyle or Kizer we’re screwed so there’s no point talking about it. I’d literally rather talk about the K competition, which has more relevance Agree. Over the years management has said they want to follow the Wolf regime and develop young QB's to use as trade bait. However, nobody's developed. Just sign a veteran that can go .500 and call it a day. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheesehawk Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 3 minutes ago, Silent502 said: Agree. Over the years management has said they want to follow the Wolf regime and develop young QB's to use as trade bait. However, nobody's developed. Just sign a veteran that can go .500 and call it a day. Kizer is 23 and Boyle is 24. Too early to give up on Kizer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deathstar Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 18 minutes ago, Silent502 said: Agree. Over the years management has said they want to follow the Wolf regime and develop young QB's to use as trade bait. However, nobody's developed. Just sign a veteran that can go .500 and call it a day. Who? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfman Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 48 minutes ago, boratt said: Rodgers Jones Williams Williams Vitale Adams MVS Allison Davis Bakh Taylor Linsley Turner Bulaga Jenkins Light Patrick Graham Tonyan Sternberger 20 on offense. About 5 more will be kept from the bubble Bubble guys Cole Madison Justin McCray Shep, Lazard, Kumerow Tra Carson Kizer Boyle Mercedes Clark Adams Lowry Lancaster Keke Smith Smith Fackrell Gary Martinez Burks Summers Savage Amos Greene Alexander King Brown Williams Hollman 20 guys. Maybe 5 to choose from, from the bubble Bubble guys Brown, Looney Redmond, Sullivan, Jackson Crawford Ramsey Kumerow and Jackson are on the team, not the bubble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfman Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 45 minutes ago, Chili said: Jamerson, Ento, Folston, M.Jones, Ramsey, Sagapolu, Bayliss, Nijman, Wilkins, Ford, Moore - Easy Cuts [11] Redmond, Sullivan, F.Brown, Looney, Summers, Crawford, Bolton, Shepherd, Lazard, EQ, Pankey, McCray, Patrick, Madison, Lewis, Carson, D.Williams, Boyle, Kizer, Crosby, Fricken - On the bubble [21] I count 41 roster locks with 12 roster spots remaining. Out of those 21 players 9 will be cut. Yikes. That will be a tough 9 cuts. It can be made easier by IR some players but by doing so they would be out for the season with no recall. One smart play could be to cut Lewis. When the 53 is finalised we IR a couple of players and then bring back Lewis. I don't think teams are going to go clamoring for a 35 years old blocking TE off waivers especially considering he barely played last year and this preseason. I've seen predictions Ramsey is on the roster. Bolton comes down to how severe the injury is, do they just IR him if they like him at all? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Fussnputz Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 (edited) Does anyone think Fackrell can play inside linebacker? He and Greene could hold down the spot until Burks and Colson are back. That might mean keeping an extra OLB like Ramsey or Jones. Edited August 31, 2019 by Mr. Fussnputz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chili Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 1 minute ago, Mr. Fussnputz said: Does anyone think Fackrell can play inside linebacker? He Greene could hold down the spot until Burks and Colson are back. That might mean keeping an extra OLB like Ramsey or Jones. I think he could. I recall watching his college highlight tape and seeing him drop back into coverage quite often. He's heavier now but i'm sure in a pinch he can play there if needed. Even Clay Matthews did it for us. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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