{Poll} Should We Trade for Jalen Ramsey?

[Kiwibrown]

2 minutes ago, Fatgerman said:

Hell, I could live with two 3's even, but Dorsey would be nuts to pay more. 2020 Iooks good for OT's. I'm holding onto my 1st rounder for one of them, even expecting to probably have to use a 2021 pick to move up some. My focus this next off season is LT, OL, TE, n DL. 

My off season:

Cut: Kirksey, Carrie, n Hubbard

Resign: Tretter, Schobert, n Randall

Sign FA: Eric Ebron, Jack Conklin

Draft: LT in 1st, DE 2nd, SAF 3rd

 

What are your thoughtsnon robinson and tretter?

[Fatgerman]

25 minutes ago, Kiwibrown said:

What are your thoughtsnon robinson and tretter?

Resign Tretter on a 2-3 year extension. Let Robinson and Hubbard walk, keeping Lamm at OT, signing Conklin as the starter at RT and drafting a LT.

If I'm Dorsey, I'd be working on a deal with Jacksonville for Ramsey but only if it included Yannick Ingakoue, who held out training camp, hasn't been given the new deal he wanted, and is a FA after the year. Give em both big fat new deals.

Trade would have to include Vernon going to Jacksonville to make the money work.

 

[buno67]

 

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Fatgerman said:

Resign Tretter on a 2-3 year extension. Let Robinson and Hubbard walk, keeping Lamm at OT, signing Conklin as the starter at RT and drafting a LT.

If I'm Dorsey, I'd be working on a deal with Jacksonville for Ramsey but only if it included Yannick Ingakoue, who held out training camp, hasn't been given the new deal he wanted, and is a FA after the year. Give em both big fat new deals.

Trade would have to include Vernon going to Jacksonville to make the money work.

 

One, cant let Hubbard walk, since he is under contract. You would have to cut him

I love the idea of signing Conklin but he is going to cost way too much .

[mtmmike]

Easy trade are first for Ramsey

trade hunt for a second trade are 2and a 3 for a 1st round draft pick 

then draft a safety with the hunt pick

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[candyman93]

I’d do 1 + 2 + Callaway

 

He’d make this defense top 5.

[BrownsDog23]

I’d offer a 1+ Greedy. When generational talent level players come available I say go get them if you can as long as the price isn’t ridiculous.

[Thomas5737]

2 hours ago, BrownsDog23 said:

I’d offer a 1+ Greedy. When generational talent level players come available I say go get them if you can as long as the price isn’t ridiculous.

Greedy:

2019 Player Grades

Overall

 

 

76.8

 

Ramsey:

2019 Player Grades

Overall

 

 

48.9

 

 

Now I'm not saying Greedy or even Ward are better players but Ramsey hasn't been shutdown this year (Ward hasn't either his grade is 45). PFF isn't entirely accurate and Greedy hasn't really been challenged yet but I'm cool with Greedy, Ward, Mitchell, Carrie and our 1st round pick next year over the alternative.

 

[Rod Johnson]

This is such a hard no for me.  Being all in sounds great until your team gets banged up, your rookie head coach has to learn a lot of hard lessons, or a combination of other factors that would cause any decent team in the NFL to go 6-10.  Trading away consecutive 1sts for OBJ and Ramsey will cause our team to implode if it falls too short of expectations.  And the level of expectation for this team is already way too high.

[Kiwibrown]

34 minutes ago, Rod Johnson said:

This is such a hard no for me.  Being all in sounds great until your team gets banged up, your rookie head coach has to learn a lot of hard lessons, or a combination of other factors that would cause any decent team in the NFL to go 6-10.  Trading away consecutive 1sts for OBJ and Ramsey will cause our team to implode if it falls too short of expectations.  And the level of expectation for this team is already way too high.

Great post. 

We need to get cheaper. 

Cut kirko, walk randall, cut carrie, trade landry, so we can sign, baker, larry, garrett, ward, 

[Rod Johnson]

1 hour ago, Kiwibrown said:

Great post. 

We need to get cheaper. 

Cut kirko, walk randall, cut carrie, trade landry, so we can sign, baker, larry, garrett, ward, 

Exactly.  We still need a steady supply of studs on rookie deals to be competitive and bail out a lot of money to those guys.

[Kiwibrown]

8 minutes ago, Rod Johnson said:

Exactly.  We still need a steady supply of studs on rookie deals to be competitive and bail out a lot of money to those guys.

Leta be a jaugernaught for a decade, not sell out for a superbowl. 

Build like baker is the man for the deacde+.

[BleedTheClock]

2 hours ago, Kiwibrown said:

Great post. 

We need to get cheaper. 

Cut kirko, walk randall, cut carrie, trade landry, so we can sign, baker, larry, garrett, ward, 

We aren't getting rid of Landry. He's a great fit for our culture and our team. We probably aren't cutting Kirksey either for the same reason. You don't see teams jettisoning team leaders to save cash very often and by all accounts, those are the two strongest leaders in our locker room. Coaches value that big time. And I know we have some big names to re-sign, but I don't think we can't make it work without cutting Kirksey and Landry.

 

I don't want to trade any of our defensive talent (starters) for Ramsey. If we could simply trade a 1st and change I'd do it. But it'll cost more than that.

[LETSGOBROWNIES]

21 minutes ago, BleedTheClock said:

We aren't getting rid of Landry. He's a great fit for our culture and our team. We probably aren't cutting Kirksey either for the same reason. You don't see teams jettisoning team leaders to save cash very often and by all accounts, those are the two strongest leaders in our locker room. Coaches value that big time. And I know we have some big names to re-sign, but I don't think we can't make it work without cutting Kirksey and Landry.

I agree with Landry, not with Kirksey. 

 

[Kiwibrown]

8 minutes ago, BleedTheClock said:

We aren't getting rid of Landry. He's a great fit for our culture and our team. We probably aren't cutting Kirksey either for the same reason. You don't see teams jettisoning team leaders to save cash very often and by all accounts, those are the two strongest leaders in our locker room. Coaches value that big time. And I know we have some big names to re-sign, but I don't think we can't make it work without cutting Kirksey and Landry.

 

I don't want to trade any of our defensive talent (starters) for Ramsey. If we could simply trade a 1st and change I'd do it. But it'll cost more than that.

In isolation ramsey is great, qll things co sidered not worth it, 8-10% of the salary cap for a top flight corner and multiple picks. 

Im on the voat if plauers arent preforming, we need to move on juice is not thay productive at wr and is a punt returner for 15 million per year. I just dont rhink it is good economics, to be a leader yoi jave to be good. 

Kirko is facing his second season ending injury in two years. 

[BleedTheClock]

1 minute ago, Kiwibrown said:

In isolation ramsey is great, qll things co sidered not worth it, 8-10% of the salary cap for a top flight corner and multiple picks. 

Im on the voat if plauers arent preforming, we need to move on juice is not thay productive at wr and is a punt returner for 15 million per year. I just dont rhink it is good economics, to be a leader yoi jave to be good. 

Kirko is facing his second season ending injury in two years. 

If Kirksey misses this whole year again he’s gone. Or getting restructured. 

 

We aren’t pissing everyone on our team and coaching staff off by cutting a good player and an elite leader. Landry might not have the stats of an elite WR, but he does all of the little things at an incredible level. He blocks. He RACs. He leads by example. He plays hurt. He holds teammates accountable. He’s invaluable to this team and I’d bet my pitiful salary that we don’t cut him any time soon.