Week 4 Games

[Leader]

Zeke - 35 total yards on 18 carries. Pretty impressive swarming D

DAL top receivers? Tight Ends. 7 receptions on 7 targets for 99 yards. No pattern too extraordinary or complicated - just simple execution.

(Graham broke put a bit in our game against PHILLY. That has to continue)

Kamara's a stud. Part power back. Part elusive, cant get him to the ground back. Excellent receiver.

 

[Leader]

Shutdown defined:

"Sunday once again showed that when good defenses force Kirk Cousins to power the Vikings, the ship sinks. Minnesota generated only 59 total yards of offense in the first half. The Vikings first seven drives either punted or lost a fumble. The offense did not gain a first down from 8:00 left in the second quarter to 2:00 left in the third quarter (21-minute span). Cousins was 9-of-14 passing with 53 pass yards at 2:00 left in the third quarter. He finished with 233 yards passing after the Bears D went lax with a two-score lead"

[Leader]

PIT (0+3) vs CIN (0+3) - battle for outright ownership of last place in the AFCN. Should be exciting.........

HOU (2+2) - 78pts for / 78pts against

CLE (2+2) - 89pts for / 91 pts against

MIA (0+4) - 26pts for (lowest in the league) / 163pts against (the highest) / 137pt differential.  It's called tanking with gusto!

Edited September 30, 2019 by Leader

[Malfatron]

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[FAH1223]

11 hours ago, CWood21 said:

I'd love to have Luke Kuechly and LVE as our ILBs, but the reason we lost to the Eagles wasn't because of our ILB play...

The Bears backup ILBs are better than anything we have

It's sad. 

[Gopackgonerd]

35 minutes ago, FAH1223 said:

The Bears backup ILBs are better than anything we have

It's sad. 

Now that's a straight up lie lol Martinez is better than their backups.

[packfanfb]

1 minute ago, Gopackgonerd said:

Now that's a straight up lie lol Martinez is better than their backups.

I will say this...Martinez is a better player, but also a much more timid player. Bears ILBs play down-hill, Martinez seems more indecisive this year even versus past years. When he's not being swallowed up by a guard (which has happened a lot recently), he's waiting 5 yards off the LOS for the RB to come to him. The Bears ILB violently attack the LOS. 

[PACKRULE]

1 hour ago, packfanfb said:

I will say this...Martinez is a better player, but also a much more timid player. Bears ILBs play down-hill, Martinez seems more indecisive this year even versus past years. When he's not being swallowed up by a guard (which has happened a lot recently), he's waiting 5 yards off the LOS for the RB to come to him. The Bears ILB violently attack the LOS. 

I don't think so really, martinez is often being asked to play n the middle by himself what is he supposed to do? He has attacked the LOS often but if he gets caught in the wrong hole he can't make any play. We have no idea if he's being asked to fill, or wait for the RB to pick his hole and react. This crap with Martinez is not good enough is terrible. Pettine has not played the run all year and doesn't seem to care to. Heck we got our lunch handed to us all game and he didn't put in a second ILB until the last drive in the 4th against the Iggles. If Martinez is not playing good enough it's not him it's the scheme.

[CWood21]

5 hours ago, FAH1223 said:

The Bears backup ILBs are better than anything we have

It's sad. 

This is either a really, really bad take or an even worse hyperbole.  Not sure which one is worse.

[Leader]

On 9/25/2019 at 8:07 AM, Leader said:

Favorites List 4.0

Green Bay (H) over Philadelphia
New England over Buffalo (H) - (Would like to see a BUF win - but NE just kills BUF - so why's that gonna change?)
Atlanta (H) over Tennessee - (Trying to figure these two schizo teams......)
Kansas City over Detroit (H) - (Sorry DET, you're not that good yet)
Indianapolis (H) over Oakland - (Who knows. Indy's at home)
Los Angeles Chargers over Miami (H) - (Best <only?> thing MIA has going for it is time zone difference)
New York Giants (H) over Washington - (The Daniel Jones excitement continues...and WA really stinks)
Baltimore (H) over Cleveland
Houston (H) over Carolina - (The Kyle Allen wild card makes this game interesting)
Los Angeles Rams (H) over Tampa Bay
Seattle over Arizona (H)
Minnesota over Chicago (H) - (Hmmm....will have to think about this one a bit more. Cousins against that DL? Hmmm)
Jacksonville over Denver (H)
Dallas over New Orleans (H) - (An interesting matchup. Clearly the best D DAL has seen this year)
Pittsburgh (H) over Cincinnati - (An annual bloodfest thats lost some of its lead Gladiators)

Week 4 record:  7 + 8 
YTD:  29 + 26

[MrBobGray]

21 hours ago, PACKRULE said:

I don't think so really, martinez is often being asked to play n the middle by himself what is he supposed to do? He has attacked the LOS often but if he gets caught in the wrong hole he can't make any play. We have no idea if he's being asked to fill, or wait for the RB to pick his hole and react. This crap with Martinez is not good enough is terrible. Pettine has not played the run all year and doesn't seem to care to. Heck we got our lunch handed to us all game and he didn't put in a second ILB until the last drive in the 4th against the Iggles. If Martinez is not playing good enough it's not him it's the scheme.

Yeah, watching the first quarter of the Eagles game in the All-22, it's hard to blame Martinez much.  Tje Eagles clearly had a plan to attack the middle of the defense, specifically by using a TE to remove Lowry and letting the guards run free to Martinez.  They combined it with a lot of sweep motion, counter action and misdirection so Martinez couldn't even commit to coming downhill to meet the guard in the hole.  Lowry kept getting knocked out of his gap by a wham block from the TE or letting him pick a side and then washing him out of the play.  Team missed Adams here, because Lowry has always struggled with taking on a second blocker, regardless of where it comes from.  He's always been pretty consistently knocked out of his gap when the offense commits an extra man to him.  He's much better when he can move forward and penetrate, and he can beat his man 1v1, but it's clear that the Eagles had a plan on how to attack this group and he was the focal point.

[{Family Ghost}]

How many teams are masters of these wham blocks?  We looked like we'd never seen it before .. any other teams we will need to be wary of?

[Sasquatch]

4 minutes ago, {Family Ghost} said:

How many teams are masters of these wham blocks?  We looked like we'd never seen it before .. any other teams we will need to be wary of?

I was curious if Denver also employed this "wham blocking" scheme, cuz they gashed us pretty good also?  Or, if the Eagles just caught GB off-guard?  Or, if GB saw the Eagles wham blocks on film but needed Lowry and company to win the battle in the trenches, and didn't?

[MrBobGray]

7 minutes ago, {Family Ghost} said:

How many teams are masters of these wham blocks?  We looked like we'd never seen it before .. any other teams we will need to be wary of?

Honestly it's a couple of things.  A short week is tough because there's less time to prepare, and that will always make it a bit more difficult.  The Eagles used a lot of movement and misdirection in general, and you could see the defense didn't look sure of what they were seeing.  Two, Lowry is just especially bad at this.  Lancaster held up against the traps/whams a lot better, but he has his own problems because he lacks the quickness to make the play after he anchors.  Too many RBs going right by him because he couldn't shed.  Team really needed Adams for this game, as being able to anchor and then shed and make the play is probably his best quality right now as a 3T.  

On top of that, there was also just a lot of little mistakes.  Guys taking too many false steps, missed tackles in the hole, and misread plays.  It wasn't a bad game from the defense in the first half (haven't watched the second), but it was a messy game.  Honestly, the Packers looked a lot better than I expected on the re-watch, and I gained a lot of respect for the Eagles.  Good plan, and executed it well.  Pettine bet the house the Eagles couldn't keep that up all game and lost.  Sometimes it happens.

[MrBobGray]

12 minutes ago, Sasquatch said:

I was curious if Denver also employed this "wham blocking" scheme, cuz they gashed us pretty good also?  Or, if the Eagles just caught GB off-guard?  Or, if GB saw the Eagles wham blocks on film but needed Lowry and company to win the battle in the trenches, and didn't?

Actually Denver wasn't very successful running the ball.  They ran for 149 yes, but on 38 carries (3.92 YPC).  On top of that, they only had 8 first downs rushing on those 38 carries.  They stuck with it and the offense couldn't make any space so it seems like they did better than they did.