BroncosFan2010 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Quote I know he was elite at NCST and had a bajillion TFL, but I just didn't see him having the bend to be an exceptional pass rusher in the NFL. He's like a rich man's Robert Ayers. Ayers was my comparison as well. Better overall, and not hampered by McDaniels mis-casting him for years. I would still much rather have Vita Vea (#12), Isaiah Wynn (#22) and Donte Jackson (#53) after making the Buffalo trade. Those were my guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFlaccoSeagulls Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 11 minutes ago, bucsfan333 said: Pretty sure he drew two holding penalties against Whitworth and had another against Havenstein. okay okay okay okay okay....but aside from 4 useless plays and 3 holding penalties, he was invisible on the field just like @ITS_RAMMY_PLAYBOI said! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Ramster Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 10 minutes ago, AFlaccoSeagulls said: okay okay okay okay okay....but aside from 4 useless plays and 3 holding penalties, he was invisible on the field just like @ITS_RAMMY_PLAYBOI said! I’m living rent free and every time you tag me it brings me joy. 😁 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFlaccoSeagulls Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 26 minutes ago, ITS_RAMMY_PLAYBOI said: I’m living rent free and every time you tag me it brings me joy. 😁 Trust me, I spend much more time ignoring you than I do replying to your garbage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Ramster Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 (edited) 12 minutes ago, AFlaccoSeagulls said: Trust me, I spend much more time ignoring you than I do replying to your garbage. Ahhh well tbh you should be perma banned so it should be you that shouldn’t be here. Because of you harper41 was banned. So yeah. So you keep tagging me. Edited September 30, 2019 by ITS_RAMMY_PLAYBOI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucsfan333 Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 Barrett might get credit for half a sack Gholston was credited with where it looks like they both got there. Would put Barrett at 9.5, which would be a new record. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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N4L Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 I looked up the buccaneers schedule, to be like "well he's really gotten 7 sacks in two games against bad OLs and he won't do anything close to what he has done later in the year once they play teams x y z" But then I saw the schedule, and yeah, he's gonna win DPOY Lots of bad OLs on the horizon to pad stats against. Especially with an offense that is going to put up points and forcing teams to pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAF-N72EX Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 Shout out to the Bucs fans here who have given their honest and informative opinions and not just opinions with glasses on. I always have a great appreciation for that. 15 hours ago, bucsfan333 said: I thinks six of Barrett's first eight sacks were from a four man rush. Not sure about yesterday. Today I started to go back and watch each game and chart each snap with notes so I'll be able to answer this by weeks end. Yes, I could easily just skip to each sack/fumble to find out but those pretty stats are not the end all be all. At least not in my opinion anyhow. I wanna see the full picture (How has he been in coverage? Is he beating double teams? Is his creating sacks or TO's for others and vice-versa? Is he scaring opposing offenses enough for them slide protection to his side? Are offenses scheming plays away from his side? Etc, etc. So far, from what I've seen, I will say that my original thoughts about Bowles blitzing alot seems to hold true. On a side note. Right now, people may only know Vea as a highly touted player coming out of college, and not so much from his on field performances, but man, that may all start to change very soon if people pay attention. His stat sheet doesn't do him any justice. And that's coming from someone who wrote him in the draft and thought he was overrated. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAF-N72EX Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 As far as DPOY-- Garrett may be off to a hot start but I'll leave this here as a simple reminder to not get too far ahead of yourselves. Per PFR. Shaq Barrett Spotlight Tampa Bay Buccaneers defender Shaquil Barrett continues his torrid pace to start the season, now at 9 sacks on the season and also adding an interception to his defensive ledger yesterday. By our Defensive Leaders formula of sacks+(1.4*interceptions), Barrett is having the strongest 4-game start to a season of any defender since 1982 when sacks were first recorded at the game level. Notably, none of these players went on to win the Defensive Player of the Year in that season. Player Year Tm Sk Int Shaquil Barrett 2019 TAM 9.0 1 Mark Gastineau 1984 NYJ 9.0 0 Kabeer Gbaja‑Biamila 2001 GNB 9.0 0 Kevin Greene 1998 CAR 9.0 0 William Gay 1983 DET 8.5 0 Bryan Cox 1992 MIA 7.0 1 Joey Porter 2002 PIT 4.0 3 Doug Betters 1983 MIA 8.0 0 Elvis Dumervil 2009 DEN 8.0 0 Antwan Odom 2009 CIN 8.0 0 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucsfan333 Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 This man right here is a big reason Barrett is off to such a good start. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeotheLion Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 1 minute ago, bucsfan333 said: This man right here is a big reason Barrett is off to such a good start. Has Suh been good for you guys? He was such a disappointment for the Rams until the postseason where he became a monster. I think that was one reason why the staff wanted him gone because his effort was so inconsistent. I do think Vea's presence probably was a factor in Rams going away from the run. I don't know how much holes would have even been there with him clogging the middle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucsfan333 Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 6 minutes ago, LeotheLion said: Has Suh been good for you guys? He was such a disappointment for the Rams until the postseason where he became a monster. I think that was one reason why the staff wanted him gone because his effort was so inconsistent. I do think Vea's presence probably was a factor in Rams going away from the run. I don't know how much holes would have even been there with him clogging the middle. He eats space with Vea and holds the LOS. Which is all we ask him to do. He had a big downfield tackle against the Rams that might've saved a TD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlowe22 Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 On 9/30/2019 at 2:06 PM, ITS_RAMMY_PLAYBOI said: harper41 was banned I was wondering where that guy went. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeotheLion Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 19 minutes ago, bucsfan333 said: He eats space with Vea and holds the LOS. Which is all we ask him to do. He had a big downfield tackle against the Rams that might've saved a TD. Remember that. It was Cooks he ran down. Was quite the hustle play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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