NYRaider Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 6 minutes ago, #1RAIDER FAN said: Even missing games, Waller has to be thinking hold out this offseason. Worst case scenario he's traded to a team that gets him TDs more than here. Between he and Carr, offense could look entirely different next year. Yeah Waller is going to be the 11th highest paid TE in the league next season at $7M while guys like Jonnu Smith ($13.75M), Hunter Henry ($15M), and Austin Hooper ($13.25M) make double. And he has $0 GTD money left on the last two years of his deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucksavage1 Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 17 minutes ago, NCOUGHMAN said: Supposedly carr was supposed to have more input (admitted by carr and Olsen) after gruden. So what happened? Exactly. Some reason Zay Jones was the most targeted player vs the Bengals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilshark69 Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 Because after renfrow started getting doubled , Jones became his new force it guy. That’s why there were 4 defenders near him , plus we didn’t get our 2 best rec. anywhere near the end zone. It was stupid. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agarcia34 Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 28 minutes ago, bucksavage1 said: We don’t know what the coaching calls are. All we can do is judge where the ball goes. 17 targets , 12 receptions and 9TDs in two seasons to your best offensive target within the 10 is criminally low. Considering how efficient he is. Rodgers targets Adam’s nearly every possession within the 10 That’s why the play call and coaching matters. Those play calls in the red zone for Adams are designed for him and they make it a priority to get him the ball. Raiders coaching staff has never done that with Waller. Carr is the one who throws the ball yes but when you’re that close to the end zone a play call is designed to go to a certain player and from what we seen Waller is not made a priority due to the coaching and play call. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyPhil1781 Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 2 hours ago, NCOUGHMAN said: im just glad he didn’t throw it away on 4th down I might have broke my tv. At least he’s progressing old carr would’ve chucked that 4th down pass into the stands Old Carr would've done that? How many times has he thrown it away on fourth down? Now, how many times has he not thrown it away? This **** is soooo stupid. You should've broke your TV anyway lol. You don't seem to understand what you're watching anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyPhil1781 Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 Carr isn't great in the RZ but, again, things started getting really bad in 2018 and have continued since. They weren't bad prior but probably average IIRC. Carr didn't call the play having only one person go into the end zone and your two best options barely running routes. Everything on that last play was predetermined. I'm not sure who's to blame but..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucksavage1 Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCOUGHMAN Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 6 minutes ago, BobbyPhil1781 said: Old Carr would've done that? How many times has he thrown it away on fourth down? Now, how many times has he not thrown it away? This **** is soooo stupid. You should've broke your TV anyway lol. You don't seem to understand what you're watching anyway Happy Monday jtagg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 10 minutes ago, bucksavage1 said: For a single first round pick? And if we improve up front, go WR in round 1, and sign a veteran WR like Robinson, Adams, Mike Williams, etc. What team is he going too that would have more talent around him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agarcia34 Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 I think Carr can certainly get the Raiders a first and a 3rd especially from a QB needy team. Thing is with a new coaching coming in and you just made the playoffs. You better have an answer for his replacement and it better not be a rookie QB. Just feels like Carr really has the upper hand in this cause Raiders need Carr more then he needs them 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCOUGHMAN Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 2 minutes ago, agarcia34 said: I think Carr can certainly get the Raiders a first and a 3rd especially from a QB needy team. Thing is with a new coaching coming in and you just made the playoffs. You better have an answer for his replacement and it better not be a rookie QB. Just feels like Carr really has the upper hand in this cause Raiders need Carr more then he needs them Carr besides yards had a really bad year imo I don’t think that production is that hard to replace almost equivalent to the year Mac Jones had Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyPhil1781 Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 20 minutes ago, NCOUGHMAN said: Happy Monday jtagg At least you inadvertently admit what you said is completely moronic and has no substance to back it up. Just making people aware in case anyone still takes what you say seriously Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agarcia34 Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 4 minutes ago, NCOUGHMAN said: Carr besides yards had a really bad year imo I don’t think that production is that hard to replace almost equivalent to the year Mac Jones had People and teams will look at his WR weapons and give him a pass. He did finish top 5 is passing yards so the value is still there. Also Mac Jones would be QB number 1 in this years draft. QB class stinks so that will up Carrs value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyPhil1781 Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 5 minutes ago, agarcia34 said: People and teams will look at his WR weapons and give him a pass. He did finish top 5 is passing yards so the value is still there. Also Mac Jones would be QB number 1 in this years draft. QB class stinks so that will up Carrs value. Do you think he deserves a pass? What do you realistically think a QB could do with the "weapons" at his disposal this season? I'm sure some could make it work but it's unfair to compare Carr to them IMO. I don't think he deserves a pass but I do believe context is very important. Not only the weapons at his disposal but the other **** this team went through. People can hate Carr all they want and some of it is deserved but everything this team went through this year is valid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickButera Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 40 minutes ago, bucksavage1 said: That's a pretty illogical tweet. What's harder, 1) build a strong supporting cast, or 2) add a first round pick and start over from scratch, trying find a QB who has potential to be top 10, develop him, hope he pans out, AND build a supporting cast He's pretty much saying,"hey we won ten games and made the playoffs but all hope is doomed and it's going to take years to win in the playoffs so might as well start over" I just don't get these takes. Makes no sense to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts