BroncosFan2010 Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 The difference between Sherman and Brady was the act of taking the helmet off. At that point you should get an auto ejection. Its an indication of moving from a football grievance to a personal grievance, and is a player safety issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
showtime Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 In football, players scream at refs all the time. Some players even act demonstrative. Coaches often scream at refs and yell profanities at them. Most of the time, the ref will just warn them to stop or ignore it. If this were the NBA, then yes, Sherman very well would have gotten ejected from the game. In the NBA, the refs will give technical fouls or ejections for less than what Richard Sherman did. But this is not the NBA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter2_1 Posted September 28, 2017 Author Share Posted September 28, 2017 14 hours ago, Kip Smithers said: He verbally abused him? What did he say? he was unhappy with a call and voiced his displeasure. Was he more persistent then your average player? Sure. But that's it. Nothing egregious. Get outta here with abuse and getting arrested. Voiced his displeasure? Sure, like how a bully progresses their will on a kid....one way of putting it. He took his helmet off, screamed at the ref. If it stopped there, then it would have par for the course. it DID NOT STOP THERE. You haven't watched it. That is egregious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter2_1 Posted September 28, 2017 Author Share Posted September 28, 2017 12 hours ago, Kip Smithers said: If he was verbally abused wouldn't he have been flagged? Jesus christ, he was flagged! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter2_1 Posted September 28, 2017 Author Share Posted September 28, 2017 10 hours ago, showtime said: In football, players scream at refs all the time. Some players even act demonstrative. Coaches often scream at refs and yell profanities at them. Most of the time, the ref will just warn them to stop or ignore it. If this were the NBA, then yes, Sherman very well would have gotten ejected from the game. In the NBA, the refs will give technical fouls or ejections for less than what Richard Sherman did. But this is not the NBA. Show, he took it further than 99% of cases. Took helmet off continued to scream and remonstrate chased official to carry it on team tried to remove him carried on.... That is rare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kip Smithers Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 1 hour ago, Hunter2_1 said: Voiced his displeasure? Sure, like how a bully progresses their will on a kid....one way of putting it. He took his helmet off, screamed at the ref. If it stopped there, then it would have par for the course. it DID NOT STOP THERE. You haven't watched it. That is egregious. ???like a bully progresses his will on a kid? Good gosh. This must be either trolling or You have some agenda of some sort against Sherman or "bullies" He took his helmet shouting "how?!", he wasn't insulting him, he never cussed at him. He like any other player was angry at a call. Now if you wanna say he should've gotten another unsportsmanlike conduct penalty which would lead to an ejection then sure that it a bit more understandable but asking for an automatic ejection and a suspension is shameful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kip Smithers Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 1 hour ago, Hunter2_1 said: Jesus christ, he was flagged! Except he wasn't flagged for this supposed "verbal abuse" you claim to have seen. He was flagged 3 times on that play. First was for PI on the throw, second was for holding on the return and 3rd is for taking his helmet off in the field of play. He wasn't flagged for the him arguing the call otherwise you see players get flagged for that all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slateman Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 16 hours ago, Kip Smithers said: If he was verbally abused wouldn't he have been flagged? Heck coaches yell at refs all the time. Belichick even grabbed a ref And Wilfork was screaming at a ref with much more force that Sherman did, suspend and arrest them! IIRC there have been several instances where a player was not penalized on the field, but when the NFL reviewed play, they were given a fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedGold Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 The complaining wasn't even that bad? Marcus Peters did the exact same thing Sunday, minus removing his helmet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mid Iowa Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 I don't know about an ejection. He didn't touch the ref, which is the rule. Perhaps a delay of game penalty on top of everything else would have been appropriate - and I feel the NFL should come down hard on him for 2 separate actions - 1) the late hit/helmet-to-helmet 2) continuing an argument that is disruptive to the flow of the game, and could be deemed "actions detrimental to the integrity of the game" as we know, these men are role models for the kids. 35 yards in penalties and a pair of $100k fines would get his attention. Fortunately, they lost the game, so perhaps Carrol will be up his rear all week to clean it up. Frustrated or not, that's not how you play the game in 2017. 1975, sure, but not now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kip Smithers Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 1 hour ago, samsel23 said: The complaining wasn't even that bad? Marcus Peters did the exact same thing Sunday, minus removing his helmet. Apparently Sherman crossed line to bullying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartacus Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Bullying and verbal abuse...... Seriously just wow..... I'm no Sherman guy but seriously.. dude got overly heated and I would argue maybe should have been given another foul and ejected but this isn't even close to bullying or abuse in any form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter2_1 Posted September 28, 2017 Author Share Posted September 28, 2017 5 hours ago, Kip Smithers said: ???like a bully progresses his will on a kid? Good gosh. This must be either trolling or You have some agenda of some sort against Sherman or "bullies" He took his helmet shouting "how?!", he wasn't insulting him, he never cussed at him. He like any other player was angry at a call. Now if you wanna say he should've gotten another unsportsmanlike conduct penalty which would lead to an ejection then sure that it a bit more understandable but asking for an automatic ejection and a suspension is shameful Because he didn't get ejected is why I'd suspend him. A fine won't stop him, and it won't stop others doing the same. A suspension might. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter2_1 Posted September 28, 2017 Author Share Posted September 28, 2017 2 hours ago, Kip Smithers said: Apparently Sherman crossed line to bullying. I didn't say that, Kip. I was making an example of your definition (voicing his displeasure...LOL) Not once have I called him a bully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmen Cygni Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Did Sherman cross the line in this case? Perhaps. I'll leave it to the NFL to make that call. Football is incredibly fast sport and plays happen in an instant. Slo-mo replay has slightly diminished the split-decision making players must make. Still must keep your wits about you nonetheless despite all of the emotions that the sport brings forth. I admire, especially as a CB, the physical presence he brings to the game which is only matched by a small few. Beyond being an an extremely intelligent and talented player, and along with his excellent coverage skills and jam techniques, he also contributes heavily to the run game which is an often overlooked aspect and integral part of CBs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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