Best WR: Davante Adams, Amari Cooper, Mike Evans, Stefon Diggs, Keenan Allen, Odell Beckham, Adam Thielan

[BleedTheClock]

Tough choice. Give me OBJ though. He's the most dynamic when healthy. 

[Danger]

16 hours ago, patriotsheatyan said:

Touchdowns is the only thing he does. He is not anywhere near top ten in yards during that time despite playing on pass happy offenses with an elite QB. One thousand yard season in six years in near perfect conditions to produce.

I bet your tune would be different if he had 3 more yards in each of 2016 and 2019

 

Davante Adams Receiving & Rushing Statistics for Career Games 2016 to 2019

		Games		Receiving										Rushing							Total Yds
Year	Tm	G	GS	Tgt	Rec	Yds	Y/R	TD	Lng	R/G	Y/G	Ctch%	Y/Tgt	Att	Yds	TD	Lng	Y/A	Y/G	A/G	Touch	Y/Tch	YScm	RRTD	Fmb
Average		14.3	14	133.5	85.8	1066.2		10						0	0	0					85.8		1066.2	10	1
Per 16 Games		16	16	150	96	1197		11						0	0	0					96		1197	11	1
2016-2019	GNB	57	56	534	343	4265	12.4	40	66	6.0	74.8	64.2%	8.0	0	0	0	0		0.0	0.0	343	12.4	4265	40	4

 

 

Look at his Per 16 numbers. 1200 yards and 11 TDs on 96 catches. He produces plenty.

[patriotsheatyan]

32 minutes ago, Danger said:

I bet your tune would be different if he had 3 more yards in each of 2016 and 2019

 

Davante Adams Receiving & Rushing Statistics for Career Games 2016 to 2019

 

		Games		Receiving										Rushing							Total Yds
Year	Tm	G	GS	Tgt	Rec	Yds	Y/R	TD	Lng	R/G	Y/G	Ctch%	Y/Tgt	Att	Yds	TD	Lng	Y/A	Y/G	A/G	Touch	Y/Tch	YScm	RRTD	Fmb
Average		14.3	14	133.5	85.8	1066.2		10						0	0	0					85.8		1066.2	10	1
Per 16 Games		16	16	150	96	1197		11						0	0	0					96		1197	11	1
2016-2019	GNB	57	56	534	343	4265	12.4	40	66	6.0	74.8	64.2%	8.0	0	0	0	0		0.0	0.0	343	12.4	4265	40	4

 

 

Look at his Per 16 numbers. 1200 yards and 11 TDs on 96 catches. He produces plenty.

In other words, he is below the average of the other receivers listed when healthy, but unlike them cannot stay healthy.

[Mox]

19 minutes ago, patriotsheatyan said:

In other words, he is below the average of the other receivers listed when healthy, but unlike them cannot stay healthy.

Last 4 years/Last 3 years

Adams: 57 games 343 catches 4,265 yards 40 TDs/41 games 268 catches 3,268 yards 28 TDs

Allen: 49 games 309 catches 3,851 yards  18 TDs/48 games 303 catches 3,788 yards 18 TDs

Beckham Jr: 48 games 277 catches 3,756 yards 23 TDs/32 games 176 catches 2,389 yards 13 TDs

Cooper: 61 games 285 4,027 yards 27 TDs/45 games 202 catches 2,874 yards 22 TDs

Diggs: 57 games 313 catches 3,903 yards 26 TDs/44 games 229 catches 3,000 yards 23 TDs

Evans: 60 games 320 catches 5,003 yards 33 TDs/44 games 224 catches 3,682 yards 21 TDs

Thielen: 58 games 303 catches 4,034 yards  24 TDs/42 games 234 catches 3,067 yards 19 TDs

 

So Adams ranks last 4 years:

4th (T) in games, 1st in catches, 2nd in yards, and 1st in TDs

Adams ranks last 3 years:

6th in games, 2nd in catches, 3rd in yards, 1st in TDs

Why doesn't he belong again?

 

[diamondbull424]

18 hours ago, HTTRDynasty said:

 

Mike Evans has 7 less TDs in that time period with about 738 more receiving yards.

Whats more prior to Adams having to “share” Redzone targets with Chris Godwin, he was more productive in TDs. Add in the previous two seasons by both of these receivers and Evans is outproducing Adams by 4 TDs and 2066 yards, it’s not as though both players weren’t in the league in 2014 as starters either.

Evans also has 115 more first down receptions in that time period. Has more yards per target during that time period. Even after 2016 he’s superior. So he’s a better chain mover, he’s similarly good in producing TDs, and far more productive as a deep threat.

If we use arbitrary stat cutoffs, I could also say something like Evans is the only receiver on this list since 2014 to reach the 1000 yard receiving mark every season and still top 45 total TDs. No other receiver here reaches any of these thresholds. Adams falls short in TDs and only hits the 4 digit mark 1x in that span.

Edited July 27, 2020 by diamondbull424

[HTTRDynasty]

58 minutes ago, diamondbull424 said:

Mike Evans has 7 less TDs in that time period with about 738 more receiving yards.

Whats more prior to Adams having to “share” Redzone targets with Chris Godwin, he was more productive in TDs. Add in the previous two seasons by both of these receivers and Evans is outproducing Adams by 4 TDs and 2066 yards, it’s not as though both players weren’t in the league in 2014 as starters either.

Evans also has 115 more first down receptions in that time period. Has more yards per target during that time period. Even after 2016 he’s superior. So he’s a better chain mover, he’s similarly good in producing TDs, and far more productive as a deep threat.

If we use arbitrary stat cutoffs, I could also say something like Evans is the only receiver on this list since 2014 to reach the 1000 yard receiving mark every season and still top 45 total TDs. No other receiver here reaches any of these thresholds. Adams falls short in TDs and only hits the 4 digit mark 1x in that span.

Ok?

I personally rank WR's based on more than just stats, especially when one WR has 141 less targets than the other.  

I was responding to a poster who said "It’s remarkable how all you need to do is put on a Green Bay uniform is all you need to do to be considered elite. Actually producing is secondary."  I felt it was my responsibility to educate him.

[FinneasGage]

Evans

Adams

Allen

OBJ

Diggs

Cooper

Thielen

 

[HoboRocket]

On 7/25/2020 at 8:35 PM, Duluther said:

1. Mike Evans

2. Devante Adams

3. Keenan Allen

 

Evans is the best by quite a bit to me. OBJ is a wildcard.

I'm actually in the same boat. All three of those guys are borderline top-5, in the same tier as Tyreek Hill. Those four WRs are their own tier, just below Julio/Nuk/Can'tguardmike

[diamondbull424]

6 hours ago, HTTRDynasty said:

Ok?

I personally rank WR's based on more than just stats, especially when one WR has 141 less targets than the other.  

I was responding to a poster who said "It’s remarkable how all you need to do is put on a Green Bay uniform is all you need to do to be considered elite. Actually producing is secondary."  I felt it was my responsibility to educate him.

1. Sure. But the post has stats that can be misleading because of the arbitrary cutoffs, was my point. It seeks to seemingly attribute additional value to Adams because he’s been more effective in producing touchdowns over the last few seasons than other players in that span.

The point of my post was to educate on how misleading that tweet is for people who are unaware that in that same span of time other WRs have been far more productive in other facets of the game.

2. The amount of targets isn’t particularly relevant as a means of taking away from Evans for two reasons a) Evans has more yards per target meaning he’s more efficient with his opportunities, which I mentioned in my post and b) more targets can means the QB/OC is more trusting of the WR to make a play (be it due to route running getting a player open or due to an ability to box defenders out making a player more available), making him a more reliable WR overall.

[ET80]

16 hours ago, diamondbull424 said:

If we use arbitrary stat cutoffs, I could also say something like Evans is the only receiver on this list since 2014 to reach the 1000 yard receiving mark every season

Honestly, you can stop right here. There are only three WRs who has put up 1,000 yards from their rookie season up to year six - Randy Moss, AJ Green and Evans.

If Evans gets 1,000 season number 7 under his belt this season, he'll be the only WR to achieve this mark; Both Moss and Green failed to hit 1,000 in year 7.

[diamondbull424]

2 hours ago, ET80 said:

Honestly, you can stop right here. There are only three WRs who has put up 1,000 yards from their rookie season up to year six - Randy Moss, AJ Green and Evans.

If Evans gets 1,000 season number 7 under his belt this season, he'll be the only WR to achieve this mark; Both Moss and Green failed to hit 1,000 in year 7.

Now I definitely didn’t know. Can you imagine how much fate must hate him to create a pandemic just to keep this man from (likely) achieving 1000 receiving yards this season in what would likely be considered an accrued season.😆 

[ET80]

Just now, diamondbull424 said:

Now I definitely didn’t know. Can you imagine how much fate must hate him to create a pandemic just to keep this man from (likely) achieving 1000 receiving yards this season in what would likely be considered an accrued season.😆 

It's 666. Moss, Green and Evans are three of the four horsemen of the apocalypse.

Michael Thomas is on pace to join them so there's your fourth...

[diamondbull424]

42 minutes ago, ET80 said:

It's 666. Moss, Green and Evans are three of the four horsemen of the apocalypse.

Michael Thomas is on pace to join them so there's your fourth...

Michael Thomas must be the Devils Advocate like Keanu Reeves, his pride will ruin us all. Someone needs to stop this man from fulfilling his destiny.