MWil23 Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 16 hours ago, brownie man said: Yeah he’s always looked like a star. I’m not sure we can take him at 13 off a injury. Second round would be lovely. I think he could be the Tee Higgins to whoever we’d take round 1. Oh yeah I have Pickens as a Day 2 guy, maybe even falling to the 3rd Round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 17 hours ago, brownie man said: In one offseason we could foreseeably turn our biggest weakness into a strength. I know a lot of guys on here want Dline and I get it. But the sooner we solve the receiver position the sooner Baker can either improve with them or the sooner we know he’s not the answer. I mean, I’m not saying a rookie can’t come in and be good, it’s certainly happened, but if your plan is to have a pair or rookies be the lynchpin of our season and Baker’s success, that’s a terrible effing plan imo. As far as the draft, I think DE is a more valuable position than WR and based on our guardrails so does the team. There are 5 positions listed there and each of our firsts have come from those positions (albeit a small sample size). I just think a long term high end starter at DE opposite Myles is a much harder thing to find later in the draft and a more important piece. If Baker can’t show some level of decency year 5 with (presumably) a starting caliber WR in FA paired with a day 2 guy (or two?) and the returning youngsters, he’s probably not the guy moving forward. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big poppa pump Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 2 minutes ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said: I mean, I’m not saying a rookie can’t come in and be good, it’s certainly happened, but if your plan is to have a pair or rookies be the lynchpin of our season and Baker’s success, that’s a terrible effing plan imo. As far as the draft, I think DE is a more valuable position than WR and based on our guardrails so does the team. There are 5 positions listed there and each of our firsts have come from those positions (albeit a small sample size). I just think a long term high end starter at DE opposite Myles is a much harder thing to find later in the draft and a more important piece. If Baker can’t show some level of decency year 5 with (presumably) a starting caliber WR in FA paired with a day 2 guy (or two?) and the returning youngsters, he’s probably not the guy moving forward. Even if we retain Clowney, I think it would be smart to pick a DE in the first 3 rounds. As much as I would like to double dip at WR, I think it would be wise to use 2 of our first 3 picks on those positions (assuming they are best player available) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 16 minutes ago, big poppa pump said: Even if we retain Clowney, I think it would be smart to pick a DE in the first 3 rounds. As much as I would like to double dip at WR, I think it would be wise to use 2 of our first 3 picks on those positions (assuming they are best player available) I think there are a lot of ways we can go and FA will play a role here. If we can add a legit #1 type dude in FA I’m fine with waiting until R2/3 on another WR. I think both is somewhat overkill considering how many targets they’re likely to see in this offense. Now, if we can’t sign a decent receiver in FA I think it makes it hard to pass on a receiver R1 as we really do need someone we can lean on to beat good corners and make tough catches. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reginaldm9 Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 The WR vs. DE debate at 13 will almost certainly play out in FA. We need a vet and rookie for both positions in all likelihood. If we throw big money at a WR or DE then you can conclude that 13 will be wherever the least amount of money was spent. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 54 minutes ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said: If Baker can’t show some level of decency year 5 with (presumably) a starting caliber WR in FA paired with a day 2 guy (or two?) and the returning youngsters, he’s probably not the guy moving forward. 👆 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtmmike Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 1st point it is going to be really hard to to trade a veteran wide receiver this crop of wide receivers is going to have starters drafted all the way down into the 3rd round. Defensive lineman scary good can draft a defensive line that will last you for 10 years. Free Agency there will not be alot of free agent wr signed 1st day people that are injured are going to have to wait or sell at a deep discount. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FGK Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 23 hours ago, MWil23 said: I like wildcards with elite measurables and athleticism Day 2 personally 100%. The only problem is I'm starting to feel a final destination in the 20's or early 30's for him. So we'd have to be moving up. I could see it (especially if we went DT/DE with our 1st), but I think it's a longshot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 Just now, FGK said: 100%. The only problem is I'm starting to feel a final destination in the 20's or early 30's for him. So we'd have to be moving up. I could see it (especially if we went DT/DE with our 1st), but I think it's a longshot. I'd like to see the sliding scale on some of these dudes, because I don't see 7 guys going R1 (but who knows). Wilson Olave Burks London Williams ...then you have guys like Dotson Pickens Watson Ross ...then you have guys like Metchie Moore Pierce Bell Velus Jones Fryfogle IMO, I'd love to have one of those Tier 1 or Tier 2 guys AND a tier 3 guy, while snagging an EDGE/DT in this deep class. I think it can be done, but who knows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie man Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 28 minutes ago, MWil23 said: IMO, I'd love to have one of those Tier 1 or Tier 2 guys AND a tier 3 guy, while snagging an EDGE/DT in this deep class. I think it can be done, but who knows. I’m thinking EXACTLY the same thing The tier two this year is literally tier 1 level but maybe with a question mark. But someone out that tier 2 is going to hit. And I need someone out that tier 3. there’s just too much talent in this draft at the position to not go heavy at it. Take advantage. I’d love something like Garrett Wilson / Treylon Burks 1st round George Pickens/ Jahan Dotson 2nd round Khalil Shakir / Wan’Dale Robinson - second third rounder Do that and bring Jarvis back on a restructured contract. We wouldn’t even need to sign someone in FA. and this is absolutely doable and probably the most cost effective option. We’d just have to hit on d line with that 3rd rounder. But I think getting a guy like Perrion Winfrey in the third is possible. If we’re bringing back Clowney and Jarvis this could all workout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSURacerDT55 Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 On 3/5/2022 at 8:24 PM, cortes02 said: Would Jordan Davis even be in consideration for the Browns? Is he more a 3-4 NT them a 4-3 DT? Peace!!! He should be, the problem is, he probably just shot up too high for us to consider at 13, If he stayed where he was I would have loved to take him at 45. He definitely can be a even front 1 tech, with this size and explosiveness would be a problem inside, the first thought is in the mold of Cam Heyward but in an even front 4 hours ago, Reginaldm9 said: The WR vs. DE debate at 13 will almost certainly play out in FA. We need a vet and rookie for both positions in all likelihood. If we throw big money at a WR or DE then you can conclude that 13 will be wherever the least amount of money was spent. It all depends on how they grade these guys, the hope is for a lot of those OTs, LBs, QBs and DBs flood the top 10 so that be can have as many blue chip guys at WR and DE to choose from. I have a feeling if they are faced with Travon Walker vs Drake London/Treylon Burks, they would go Walker 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big poppa pump Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 It really is hard to envision Walker being there at 13. He may even go ahead of Thibideaux! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NudeTayne Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 Y'all have jumped the shark IMO. Jordan Davis ALL DAY (and all night if we're talking Jordan Davis's cousin and @DaWg_LB.) over Trayvon Walker, even before the combine but holy moly after. Say it with me: Jordan Davis can play all three downs. He has the conditioning and you can just see it by looking at him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AkronsWitness Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 3 hours ago, NudeTayne said: Y'all have jumped the shark IMO. Jordan Davis ALL DAY (and all night if we're talking Jordan Davis's cousin and @DaWg_LB.) over Trayvon Walker, even before the combine but holy moly after. Say it with me: Jordan Davis can play all three downs. He has the conditioning and you can just see it by looking at him. The ghosts of Danny Shelton and Phil Taylor prevent me from ever getting excited about a NT prospect who is athletic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie man Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 1 hour ago, AkronsWitness said: The ghosts of Danny Shelton and Phil Taylor prevent me from ever getting excited about a NT prospect who is athletic David is different. He’s got the tape and the athleticism. Shelton was know for not being athletic Davis is known for being athletic but I get the concern. I want him on the Browns too. I think we just have to go receiver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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