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Rich7sena Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 38 minutes ago, Jerry said: Expected. Depending on who they draft at #4, I also expect Ryan or Jones to be moved after June 1st--despite reports that say otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronjon1990 Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 2 hours ago, Jerry said: Below is a list of teams in "salary cap hell." There are some FAs I believe we should really go after. I also listed some potential cut/trade candidates we should go after as well. Philadelphia Eagles Expected salary cap: -$47.2 million Cut/Trade candidates: Fletcher Cox, Brandon Graham and Javon Hargrave. Los Angeles Rams Expected salary cap: -$22.4 million FAs: S John Johnson III, Cut/Trade candidate: DT A'Shawn Robinson Atlanta Falcons Expected salary cap: -$35.7 million FAs: S Keanu Neal New Orleans Saints Expected salary cap: -$63.6 million FAs: DE Trey Hendrickson, DT Sheldon Rankins Cut/Trade candidates: LB Kwon Alexander, CBs Janoris Jenkins, and Patrick Robinson Kansas City Chiefs Expected salary cap: -$19 million FAs: CB Bashaud Breeland and WR Demarcus Robinson Cut/Trade candidate: OT Mitchell Schwartz Pittsburgh Steelers Expected salary cap: -$19.5 million FAs: OLB Bud Dupree Cut/Trade candidates: CB Joe Haden and G David DeCastro I posted this list purely for conversation. I just want to hear what everyone thinks and who other posters would like to go after. There are many more teams that may cut some players and plenty of players that will test the market due to the salary cap adjustment. I just saw these teams as being the most likely to struggle with resigning their talent and having to make some trades/cuts to manage their cap. So these players IMO are more likely to hit the market during the upcoming FA period. From this list, I'd target Hargrave, DeCastro, and Johnson III. In a potential 2nd wave, add Hendrickson and Rankins to the list. The rest are either a bit closer to the end than I'd like (Cox, Graham), had past issues and move around (Jenkinks), or will likely want too much (Dupree). Or they just don't fill a need in a way that appeals to me. If we could come away with DeCastro and Johnson III, I'd be pretty happy to sit pat barring some amazing potential grab. With FS and G off the list, targeting the DL and OT in the draft becomes a much easier decision while opening up the later rounds for some depth/BPA action. I still really want to go EDGE-DT-CB with picks 1-3 and our 4th on an OT. Not having to sweat a FS or G would make me a much happier fan on draft day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 26 minutes ago, ronjon1990 said: From this list, I'd target Hargrave, DeCastro, and Johnson III. In a potential 2nd wave, add Hendrickson and Rankins to the list. The rest are either a bit closer to the end than I'd like (Cox, Graham), had past issues and move around (Jenkinks), or will likely want too much (Dupree). Or they just don't fill a need in a way that appeals to me. If we could come away with DeCastro and Johnson III, I'd be pretty happy to sit pat barring some amazing potential grab. With FS and G off the list, targeting the DL and OT in the draft becomes a much easier decision while opening up the later rounds for some depth/BPA action. I still really want to go EDGE-DT-CB with picks 1-3 and our 4th on an OT. Not having to sweat a FS or G would make me a much happier fan on draft day. I kind of want Bud Dupree. Maybe he could play the Sam position? He's listed at 6'4" and 269 lbs as an OLB for the Steelers. 28 years old coming off an injury though. I would be happy with getting even 2 of these guys (Hargrave, DeCastro, Johnson III, Dupree). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 49 minutes ago, Rich7sena said: Expected. Depending on who they draft at #4, I also expect Ryan or Jones to be moved after June 1st--despite reports that say otherwise. Yeah I could see it happening. Their salary cap is a ish show and both Ryan and Jones are getting up there in years. They need to start planning for the future whether they like it or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 On 2/17/2021 at 11:19 AM, big_palooka said: The guys who end up hitting FA are there for a reason. There isn't a lot of "impact" players in that group that the team needs to truly transform the defense. I think this year is slightly different because of the uncertainty of the cap going forward as the NFL eases into letting fans come to games. So I think this off-season more than others we'll see a lot of unexpected cap causalities. Although I do agree that a lot of those guys, particularly the older ones, will pursue short term deals with contenders. But I could still see us landing a young difference maker at FS like Marcus Williams or John Johnson III if we're willing to give them long term security. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 15 minutes ago, Jerry said: I kind of want Bud Dupree. Maybe he could play the Sam position? He's listed at 6'4" and 269 lbs as an OLB for the Steelers. 28 years old coming off an injury though. I would be happy with getting even 2 of these guys (Hargrave, DeCastro, Johnson III, Dupree). I'd be open to Bud Dupree but there's definitely some risk involved with him coming off of an ACL tear. Shaq Barrett is also very intriguing but he's going to want to get paid and I'm not sure how well he fits our scheme. Matt Judon is likely going to leave Baltimore and is a guy I'd take a long look at. If Arizona lets Hasson Reddick walk he's another guy that I'd go after hard. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronjon1990 Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 Just now, NYRaider said: I'd be open to Bud Dupree but there's definitely some risk involved with him coming off of an ACL tear. Shaq Barrett is also very intriguing but he's going to want to get paid and I'm not sure how well he fits our scheme. Matt Judon is likely going to leave Baltimore and is a guy I'd take a long look at. If Arizona lets Hasson Reddick walk he's another guy that I'd go after hard. Give me Judon if he's available. I'd love Barrett, but not for the price he'll want. I wanted him a couple years ago lol. I'd like Dupree, but I have a strong feeling he'll be back in Pittsburgh so I've mostly written him off. They don't tend to let go of good, non-problem players very often. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 Just now, ronjon1990 said: Give me Judon if he's available. I'd love Barrett, but not for the price he'll want. I wanted him a couple years ago lol. I'd like Dupree, but I have a strong feeling he'll be back in Pittsburgh so I've mostly written him off. They don't tend to let go of good, non-problem players very often. I've read that Judon will likely be gone because of all of the extensions they have coming up. He's only 28 and would fit Bradley's scheme. I've also read that Dupree is likely done in Pittsburgh due to cap reasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronjon1990 Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 Just now, NYRaider said: I've read that Judon will likely be gone because of all of the extensions they have coming up. He's only 28 and would fit Bradley's scheme. I've also read that Dupree is likely done in Pittsburgh due to cap reasons. Fair enough. If both become available, it's still Judon then Dupree for me if it's to be our "splash" get. Dupree would have to be priced low enough to be able to get another guy. Judon, I'd push for as a big fish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 5 minutes ago, NYRaider said: I've read that Judon will likely be gone because of all of the extensions they have coming up. He's only 28 and would fit Bradley's scheme. I've also read that Dupree is likely done in Pittsburgh due to cap reasons. That's why I listed him. I think he could be a really good role player in our defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 1 minute ago, ronjon1990 said: Fair enough. If both become available, it's still Judon then Dupree for me if it's to be our "splash" get. Dupree would have to be priced low enough to be able to get another guy. Judon, I'd push for as a big fish. I'd be happy with either guy. Honestly though I might even prefer Hasson Reddick on a much cheaper deal than either of those two guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnlyGlove Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 Wonder what Taks price will be, wouldn't kind him back in place of Key. Azeez Ojulari in over Nassib. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agarcia34 Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 Totally forgot about Tak. Can’t imagine his price tag would be high and Key and Nassib should both be shown the door. Been preaching that for months. Both are a waist of a roster spot. Tak I would expect to be back. He looks like a solid fit in the defense and another buy low situation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie2Gunz Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, ronjon1990 said: Fair enough. If both become available, it's still Judon then Dupree for me if it's to be our "splash" get. Dupree would have to be priced low enough to be able to get another guy. Judon, I'd push for as a big fish. I'm one who always looks for value with upside potential. Possible diamonds in the rough. I would be looking at Rankins who is a former 1st round pick, only 26 and has an 8 sack season on his resume as a 3T. He has had injury concerns but if we can sign him on a cheap 2 year deal and use him properly he could be a valuable asset in terms of creating pressure from the inside of our Dline. Here is an old article from 2019 but according to this he was a major pass rushing asset and was stout against the run as well. https://touchdownwire.usatoday.com/2019/01/17/will-the-saints-run-defense-hold-up-without-dt-sheldon-rankins/ If I was Mayock I would give Rankins a hard look and could prove to be a steal if he can remain healthy. Edited February 19, 2021 by Frankie2Gunz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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