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2020 NFC Championship - Tampa Bay Buccaneers vs. Green Bay Packers


Who will win?  

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  1. 1. Who will win?

    • Bucs
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    • Packers
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16 hours ago, Asciimo said:

wait are we really in a timeline where packer fans are complaining about the refs? 

Can you not see a more fitting post script to the 2020 season that was Covid? 

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1st and goal at the 8. lets break it down.

  • Rodgers' throw to Lazard on the slant was bad
    • Yes Lazard should have been looking for the ball that was thrown behind him anyway
  • Rodgers throw to Davante in the back middle was uncatchable 
    • It was tight coverage but a good throw gives him a chance
  • The decision not to run on 3rd down was horrid
    • The decision to throw at 2 Bucs in front of Davante could have been a  lucky pick but never a completion

A QB sucks so badly he fails to even get one yard in a 1st and goal from the 8 situation.

4th and 7 to 9 yards is about a 22% conversion rate.

LaFleur should have still tried the desperation play but that's all it was because his QB sucked on those 3 plays.

Assuming a currently inept 0-3 QB was going to convert on 4th and 8 is a huge benefit of the doubt.

  • If Brady was garbage in the 2nd half then Rodgers was absolutely garbage on that series.
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9 hours ago, ravishingone said:

As mentioned earlier, King s grab of Johnson s shirt and turning it into a cape was too blatant.  At least with all the tugs allowed by the shoulder pads the DBs are a lot closer then King.  King is in a trail position losing ground and is desperate to stop Johnson from getting farther ahead.  

So even you're admitting that the refs are deciding on whether the foul is egregious or not.  That's not the refs decision to make.  It's either a foul or it's not a foul.

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3 minutes ago, CWood21 said:

So even you're admitting that the refs are deciding on whether the foul is egregious or not.  That's not the refs decision to make.  It's either a foul or it's not a foul.

Please stop with the ref conspiracy/inadequacy already.

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Just now, CWood21 said:

So even you're admitting that the refs are deciding on whether the foul is egregious or not.  That's not the refs decision to make.  It's either a foul or it's not a foul.

This is a special kinda hot take.

All refs would call 100 penalties every game if they did not do this to some extent.

Should they have called 4 to 6 O-line holding calls in the game? maybe

Could they have called some DB grabbing earlier? sure

Was King such an incredible idiot that he forced the flag? Absolutely.

 

If you think the King play was not a blatant must-be-called in-all-circumstances penalty then you have to also think the NRC hit in New Orleans was not a similar penalty because the stakes were high and they were letting them play. Its just goofy. In both cases the WR had a routine catch negated by an over the top insane level of cheating.

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They have these guys who work for the networks that used to be heads of officiating.

They talk during the broadcasts.

They always talk about degree of effect on the receiver or did it inhibit the chance to make the catch and so on.

 

Do you watch the games without sound or do you just think these guys are also part of your conspiracy?

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55 minutes ago, AFlaccoSeagulls said:

Nobody's really playing a "what if" game here except you lol the Packers defense got the stop they needed on 3rd and 4, and the referees gave the game to Tom Brady on the spot by throwing a flag they hadn't thrown for either side all game. 

The "what if" game comes in when you said the Bucs would "probably" get the first down if they replayed it again, despite the fact that I already mentioned how bad Brady was playing in the 2nd half AND he had just air-mailed another 3rd down throw, which would've made him 1/4 on 3rd downs in the 2nd half to go on top of 3 INT's....

This is just hilarious at this point..

 

- So its unreasonable for me to say that the Bucs would convert the 3rd down if they had another chance, because they were 1 for 3 in the second half, but you don't see the absolute irony in you saying they gave the game to Brady by making that call, because GBs offense, who needed a TD with what would have been around 1 minute and 30 seconds left, who hadn't scored a TD in their last 3 possessions (2 of them punts), is somehow more realistic?

 

- Yes, I'm sure the TB receiver being held before with both hands and dragging the defender behind him had nothing to do with the ball being out of reach lol

 

- Show me another hold during the game close to as obvious/egregious as the one Kevin King committed?

 

It's hilarious how much salt is in this thread

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25 minutes ago, CWood21 said:

So even you're admitting that the refs are deciding on whether the foul is egregious or not.  That's not the refs decision to make.  It's either a foul or it's not a foul.

Well, yeah because that s part of the job.  Have we not heard that offensive holdiing could be called on every play?  Roughing the passer fouls are extremely subjective.  Rules are in the book up to the interpretation of an officiating crew.  I don t believe this is breaking news.  

If you want to.believe there was some type of conspiracy on the King PI, that s fine, no problem.   

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We’ve gone from Clete Blakeman being in A-Rod’s pocket pre-game to the refs costing the Pack the game.   
 

Maybe we should just agree outside of a couple of ridiculously bad decisions (Fail Mary, that Det phantom face mask x 2) it’s probably just the randomness of football now.   

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11 minutes ago, Broncofan said:

We’ve gone from Clete Blakeman being in A-Rod’s pocket pre-game to the refs costing the Pack the game.   
 

Maybe we should just agree outside of a couple of ridiculously bad decisions (Fail Mary, that Det phantom face mask x 2) it’s probably just the randomness of football now.   

The only thing NFL refs are consistently good at is being inconsistent....it's like injuries, you just need to gameplan as much as you can and hope it doesn't kill you.

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