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2007 Patriots vs 2008 Lions with 12 players


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2007 Patriots vs 2008 Lions with 12 players  

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  1. 1. Who would win, 2007 Patriots vs 2008 Lions with 12 players

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Who would win a seven game series, the 2008 Lions with an extra player on the field, plus a 61 man active roster (which includes their practice squad) vs the 2007 Patriots who play by normal rules. Three games on each teams home field, game seven on a neutral field. One week before every game to prepare. 

 

Who wins?

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3 hours ago, BayRaider said:

I don't think the extra defensive playet would mean too much but the extra offensive player would make a huge difference. I wanna say Lions 4-3 but none of us can answer this with any kind of certainty. 

I vehemently disagree.  The ability to add a rusher without sacrificing anyone in coverage EVERY SINGLE PLAY is incredibly impactful.

Lions sweep 4-0 under this scenario IMO.

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1 hour ago, VegasOdds101 said:

You have arguably the best regular season team of all time vs arguably the worst regular season team of all time.  I doubt adding one (assuming avg. crappy Lions player) is going to make much of a difference.

Unless that player was a prime Barry Sanders. 

 

This is obviously going to the Patriots. 

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18 hours ago, Hunter2_1 said:

Considering Moss was literally catching balls above 2-3 defenders, I'd say it wouldnt matter if you gave the Lions an extra defender. 

 

Considering that the sole loss the Patriots took was to a team that could effectively rush four and drop seven, adding extra bodies to rush and keeping coverage at seven is an absolute advantage. 

I don't care how bad a team was, i don't care how good the opponent is - adding an additional NFL calibur player on the field is an unfair advantage, and the team with the extra body wins.

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2 hours ago, EliteTexan80 said:

Considering that the sole loss the Patriots took was to a team that could effectively rush four and drop seven, adding extra bodies to rush and keeping coverage at seven is an absolute advantage. 

I don't care how bad a team was, i don't care how good the opponent is - adding an additional NFL calibur player on the field is an unfair advantage, and the team with the extra body wins.

I'd say it's not as cut and dry as that. I've seen Brady put in TDs with "12 men on the field", which I know is a ridiculous argument but it shows that it's not a guarantee that a 12men team become unstoppable. 

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Good question. I think Lions could pull it out. NFL is a numbers game, that extra man would make a monumental difference. The run game would be all but dead for NE, you cannot win a 9 v 12 battle. Pats would have to rely on passing game, where they'd probably have to use 7 blockers since Detroit could rush 6 and drop back 6. Assuming they can prevent pressure with 7 blockers against Lions' weak front, that makes it 3 WRs vs 6 defenders in coverage. Moss could obviously make some classic catches over multiple defenders, but you can't rely on that.

 

On offense the Lions would probably be smart to just employ an extra WR and methodically march up the field since a WR would almost always be open early unless the Pats started only rushing 3. 

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On 10/16/2017 at 4:43 AM, EliteTexan80 said:

Considering that the sole loss the Patriots took was to a team that could effectively rush four and drop seven, adding extra bodies to rush and keeping coverage at seven is an absolute advantage. 

I don't care how bad a team was, i don't care how good the opponent is - adding an additional NFL calibur player on the field is an unfair advantage, and the team with the extra body wins.

You have to consider that the team that did that also had an extremely dominant defense and uniquely matched up against that Patriots team very well in a way the rest of the league didn't. And they only barely won with a lot of luck. 

The Lions are a very bad team with a handicap that still don't match up well and should get slaughtered in a 50 point route. A Lions defense with an extra man isn't going to all of a sudden replicate. A 4 man pass rush by that team is still not nearly as effective as the match up that beat them. Yeah it's an unfair advantage, but this is a really lopsided match up to start with. 

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