Sandy Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 19 minutes ago, Les Punting said: He had 7 sacks in 40 games, all of 2 last year, in 14 games, as a senior, playing on a top defense. How many times do we have to watch big lunks like Davis fail to rush the passer at the next level to realize that big lunks like that can't rush the passer at the next level? Dexter Lawrence was a much better looking prospect and even he hasn't done much as a pass rusher. Both Davis and Travis Jones are 2-down players with zero plan and minimal skill as pass rushers. Neither belong anywhere near the first round. Have you actually watched him play? Just watch some complications of Georgia's defense, you'll see a lot more than you're giving him credit for. I was actually shocked at how often he broke through the line to disrupt passing plays. He obviously didn't always get the sack, but more than once he made the QB run into another defenders arms or cause an ill-fated scramble/throwaway/bad pass. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Penske Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 Does anyone know where this Peter king report on GB/ Rodgers came from? I hate these types of accounts that don’t link this but interested to see what (if Anything) king said on Olave/packers links. https://www.instagram.com/p/Ccat5lxOUKf/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Lofton Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 (edited) In my opinion the strength of our team is the DBs. If we could stop the run, we would be a dominate defense. I think the talent of our skill position is RBs. Sounds to me like we could win a bunch of games running, throwing here or there and playing strong defense. What I'm trying to get at is it's time to draft an elite DT/NT to hold the middle with Kenny. Edited April 18, 2022 by James Lofton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 48 minutes ago, Les Punting said: He had 7 sacks in 40 games, all of 2 last year, in 14 games, as a senior, playing on a top defense. How many times do we have to watch big lunks like Davis fail to rush the passer at the next level to realize that big lunks like that can't rush the passer at the next level? Dexter Lawrence was a much better looking prospect and even he hasn't done much as a pass rusher. Both Davis and Travis Jones are 2-down players with zero plan and minimal skill as pass rushers. Neither belong anywhere near the first round. Where have these big links with Uber athletic ability failed? Haloti Ngata? Stud. Vita Vea? Stud. Dontari Poe? Stud. Dexter Lawrence? Jury still out but he's one of the better players on the Giants defense. They absolutely have a plan to pass rush, explode off the ball and push the center/OG into the QBs lap. Collapse the pocket, leave little room for escape and allow the EDGE players to eat. Looking at college sacks is just lazy. You have two enormous men with amazing athletic gifts. They'll help a defense big time. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas492 Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 40 minutes ago, Packerraymond said: Where have these big links with Uber athletic ability failed? Haloti Ngata? Stud. Vita Vea? Stud. Dontari Poe? Stud. Dexter Lawrence? Jury still out but he's one of the better players on the Giants defense. They absolutely have a plan to pass rush, explode off the ball and push the center/OG into the QBs lap. Collapse the pocket, leave little room for escape and allow the EDGE players to eat. Looking at college sacks is just lazy. You have two enormous men with amazing athletic gifts. They'll help a defense big time. They also take a double team to allow the other DL to penetrate 1:1. Pairing someone like Davis with Clark would be dangerous, as it would allow Kenny to play a more penetrating style on passing downs. And yah, if you are drafting high, you want the big uglies to be more slippery inside. But really, all they need is a strong bull rush to take the center a few steps backwards to get the job done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R T Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 4 minutes ago, vegas492 said: They also take a double team to allow the other DL to penetrate 1:1. Pairing someone like Davis with Clark would be dangerous, as it would allow Kenny to play a more penetrating style on passing downs. And yah, if you are drafting high, you want the big uglies to be more slippery inside. But really, all they need is a strong bull rush to take the center a few steps backwards to get the job done. Just don't think the difference between Davis and Slaton justifies 1st round draft capital spent by the Packers on him. Run plugs can be gotten on day 3 of the draft in any year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R T Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 58 minutes ago, Arthur Penske said: Does anyone know where this Peter king report on GB/ Rodgers came from? I hate these types of accounts that don’t link this but interested to see what (if Anything) king said on Olave/packers links. https://www.instagram.com/p/Ccat5lxOUKf/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= It is the lying season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 7 minutes ago, R T said: Just don't think the difference between Davis and Slaton justifies 1st round draft capital spent by the Packers on him. Run plugs can be gotten on day 3 of the draft in any year. TJ Slaton isn't even a starter? He's like 1/4 as explosive as Davis and Jones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 1 hour ago, Arthur Penske said: Does anyone know where this Peter king report on GB/ Rodgers came from? I hate these types of accounts that don’t link this but interested to see what (if Anything) king said on Olave/packers links. https://www.instagram.com/p/Ccat5lxOUKf/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= 99.9% sure he watched this on a podcast that autoplayed on YouTube for me last week where he talked mostly about the top ten picks but talked about other rumors on it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Penske Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 20 minutes ago, R T said: It is the lying season. I'm aware. Still like to see where this BS is coming from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R T Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 6 minutes ago, Packerraymond said: TJ Slaton isn't even a starter? He's like 1/4 as explosive as Davis and Jones. 1/4 as explosive you say, numbers tell a different story. Explosion numbers. Vertical - Davis 32", Slaton 29", Jones 28.5" Broad jump - Davis 10.03, Jones 9.02, Slaton 9.01 10-yard split - Davis 1.63, Slaton 1.68, Jones 1.78 Davis 6'6"/341, Slaton 6'4"/330, Jones 6'4"/325 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas492 Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 36 minutes ago, R T said: Just don't think the difference between Davis and Slaton justifies 1st round draft capital spent by the Packers on him. Run plugs can be gotten on day 3 of the draft in any year. Don't disagree. Just pointing out that all big uglies really have to do is bull rush to be an effective rusher. I haven't watched enough of either player to know what they do well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexGreen#20 Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 17 minutes ago, R T said: 1/4 as explosive you say, numbers tell a different story. Explosion numbers. Vertical - Davis 32", Slaton 29", Jones 28.5" Broad jump - Davis 10.03, Jones 9.02, Slaton 9.01 10-yard split - Davis 1.63, Slaton 1.68, Jones 1.78 Davis 6'6"/341, Slaton 6'4"/330, Jones 6'4"/325 Those are not small differences. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexGreen#20 Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 43 minutes ago, R T said: Just don't think the difference between Davis and Slaton justifies 1st round draft capital spent by the Packers on him. Run plugs can be gotten on day 3 of the draft in any year. This is an entirely different thought than that Davis won't go in the first round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R T Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 Just now, AlexGreen#20 said: Those are not small differences. You are correct, Slaton being 0.10 of a second quicker in the 10-yard split then Jones suggests he is more explosive than Jones is. So much for being a 1/4 of as explosive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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