RaidersAreOne Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 (edited) 55 minutes ago, NYRaider said: He's the best WR in football. Who will be paid like it, and again is almost 30. He's never been known for his speed either so I worry he'd turn to molasses over the course of his contract. I hope we use our money on the trenches. Edited November 2, 2021 by RaidersAreOne 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted November 2, 2021 Author Share Posted November 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, agarcia34 said: Yeah but doesn’t seem to be serious probably keep him out for the rest of the season We've seen how long it takes rookie WR to adjust in our system, I'd pass on another WR early. Davante Adams, Allen Robinson, Mike Williams, Courtland Sutton, Will Fuller, Chris Godwin, and JuJu are all potential free agents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted November 2, 2021 Author Share Posted November 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, RaidersAreOne said: Who will be paid like it, and again is almost 30. He's never been known for his speed either so I worry he'd turn to molasses over the course of his contract. I hope we use our money on the trenches. As he should be. He'll be 29 in December, Antonio Brown is 33 and not the fastest guy either, has that stopped him from being great? Larry Fitzgerald was a 100+ catch / 1,000+ yard WR well into his 30s. The fact that he doesn't win with purely speed is a positive because it's less likely he'll decline quickly as he gets older. If you sign him to a 3-4 year deal you're getting him from age 29-32. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronjon1990 Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 1 minute ago, NYRaider said: As he should be. He'll be 29 in December, Antonio Brown is 33 and not the fastest guy either, has that stopped him from being great? Larry Fitzgerald was a 100+ catch / 1,000+ yard WR well into his 30s. The fact that he doesn't win with purely speed is a positive because it's less likely he'll decline quickly as he gets older. If you sign him to a 3-4 year deal you're getting him from age 29-32. Larry probably would've retired as one too if he didn't have to deal with a revolving door of QBs and systems. AZ did that man dirty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted November 2, 2021 Author Share Posted November 2, 2021 1 minute ago, ronjon1990 said: Larry probably would've retired as one too if he didn't have to deal with a revolving door of QBs and systems. AZ did that man dirty. If you can get a top 10 player in the NFL at age 29, you do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronjon1990 Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 Just now, NYRaider said: If you can get a top 10 player in the NFL at age 29, you do it. Yep. 29 doesn't scare me, especially with WRs that aren't reliant on speed alone. Adams should easily remain an elite WR for another 3-4 years minimum. If he wanted to keep playing, he's very much one of those guys who should easily be able to transition to a WR2/3 role and rack up 7-800 yard seasons into his mid 30s and that again assumes he experiences a meaningful drop in skill in the next couple of years. I'd grab him on a 7 year deal with "out" options in years 6 and 7 and never think about it again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyPhil1781 Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 17 minutes ago, RaidersAreOne said: Who will be paid like it, and again is almost 30. He's never been known for his speed either so I worry he'd turn to molasses over the course of his contract. I hope we use our money on the trenches. Agreed. I bet we'll do that and grab a speedster in the draft. Kinda hope we do as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted November 2, 2021 Author Share Posted November 2, 2021 42 minutes ago, ronjon1990 said: Yep. 29 doesn't scare me, especially with WRs that aren't reliant on speed alone. Adams should easily remain an elite WR for another 3-4 years minimum. If he wanted to keep playing, he's very much one of those guys who should easily be able to transition to a WR2/3 role and rack up 7-800 yard seasons into his mid 30s and that again assumes he experiences a meaningful drop in skill in the next couple of years. I'd grab him on a 7 year deal with "out" options in years 6 and 7 and never think about it again. Adams is literally the best WR in the NFL and people would rather draft a WR, lol. How well has drafting WR's worked out for us? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronjon1990 Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, NYRaider said: Adams is literally the best WR in the NFL and people would rather draft a WR, lol. How well has drafting WR's worked out for us? I'm all for drafting one, provided we don't snag Adams. But my list of acceptable picks is very short, so they better back up the Brinks truck for Davante. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted November 2, 2021 Author Share Posted November 2, 2021 Just now, ronjon1990 said: I'm all for drafting one, provided we don't snag Adams. But my list of acceptable picks is very short, so they better back up the Brinks truck for Davante. Drafting a WR early would be meh. That's the Al Davis way of thinking, we've already seen Ruggs/Edwards struggle to adjust and build chemistry with Carr as rookies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oakdb36 Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 Jahan Dotson? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyPhil1781 Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 1 minute ago, oakdb36 said: Jahan Dotson? He's very good. I bet his stock will rise after the combine b/c his skills and production are very hindered by pretty bad QB play. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oakdb36 Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, BobbyPhil1781 said: He's very good. I bet his stock will rise after the combine b/c his skills and production are very hindered by pretty bad QB play. Thx. I know nothing about the upcoming draft class but just watching his highlights, he seems to bring the skillset we just lost. Edited November 3, 2021 by oakdb36 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oakdb36 Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 @BobbyPhil1781 What about the Ohio State WRs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyPhil1781 Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 37 minutes ago, oakdb36 said: @BobbyPhil1781 What about the Ohio State WRs? I would take Olave or Wilson in a heartbeat and not think twice about it. My only concern is we lost a guy who can stretch the field and neither of them have blazing speed. Olave, somehow, always finds himself behind the defense though so I'm confused as to how he'll fare against NFL CBs and if he can replicate that. Wilson's hands and route running are insanely good but I won't expect him to run sub 4.4 so I guess we need to prioritize what's most important. As much as I might hate saying it, Dotson would be a better fit to replace what we just lost than either of them. If we landed either of those three, I don't see how we'd end up sad though. All are fantastic players. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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