swede700 Posted January 3, 2022 Author Share Posted January 3, 2022 (edited) 9 minutes ago, PrplChilPill said: Giants in a great position to get any player they want, and there is no QB this year people love (note, I'm not suggesting the Giants would have any idea how to use that pick....). Depends upon who they now hire as their new GM, since Gettleman is shuffling out the door into retirement after the season. But, if I'm the Vikings, I'd consider taking Willis, but maybe that's just me. Edited January 3, 2022 by swede700 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 5 hours ago, swede700 said: Depends upon who they now hire as their new GM, since Gettleman is shuffling out the door into retirement after the season. But, if I'm the Vikings, I'd consider taking Willis, but maybe that's just me. Willis? I would consider it but not till the 2nd round. He is not worth a high 1st round pick, is not nearly developed enough for a 5th year Senior. And would be pretty pathetic to give up on Mond that soon but if they cannot even play him in Green Bay and play awful Sean Mannion then who knows maybe Mond looks terrible in practice. Real question is does Kevin Stefanski love Kirk Cousins as a QB? If so trade him to the Browns and I would maybe take on Baker Mayfield contract which is up in 2023. Save some money getting rid of Kirks contract. Hell could maybe get a 1st round pick out of it as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrplChilPill Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 24 minutes ago, Ozzy said: Willis? I would consider it but not till the 2nd round. He is not worth a high 1st round pick, is not nearly developed enough for a 5th year Senior. And would be pretty pathetic to give up on Mond that soon but if they cannot even play him in Green Bay and play awful Sean Mannion then who knows maybe Mond looks terrible in practice. Real question is does Kevin Stefanski love Kirk Cousins as a QB? If so trade him to the Browns and I would maybe take on Baker Mayfield contract which is up in 2023. Save some money getting rid of Kirks contract. Hell could maybe get a 1st round pick out of it as well. They'd have to film a lot of new commercials if Baker moves..... That said, sure, if you can do that, do it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SemperFeist Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 Let’s get a three team trade going. Cousins to Cleveland, Mayfield somewhere else, and the Vikings without either. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 5 minutes ago, SemperFeist said: Let’s get a three team trade going. Cousins to Cleveland, Mayfield somewhere else, and the Vikings without either. Sure but Baker is what owed $18 mil next year, Kirk is owed $35 mil. Yeah give me Baker, and usually 3 team trades do not happen but sure would love that. Also there is the fact that Baker is probably better than Mond will be next year or any rookie they could potentially draft. And if he stinks just do not resign him after next year. Maybe Matt Corral, Pickett, Howell or Ridder are better than Baker Mayfield has been but I freaking doubt it. Then again if Baker cannot win one one of the most talented rosters in the league, what chance he has somewhere else. But they were very injured this year and had a ton of guys in and out of the lineup so that hurt them the most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SemperFeist Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 The highest that the Vikings can pick in 2022 is 7th The lowest that they can pick is 15th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingsrule Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 33 minutes ago, SemperFeist said: The highest that the Vikings can pick in 2022 is 7th The lowest that they can pick is 15th. So let’s not win this weekend. Literally no benefit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SemperFeist Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 (edited) 12 minutes ago, vikingsrule said: So let’s not win this weekend. Literally no benefit. It’s a pointless statement because there’s a lot of players that it could benefit. The Vikings draft pick will be decided on the results of other games far more than their own. You should try to win every game. Period. Edited January 4, 2022 by SemperFeist 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swede700 Posted January 4, 2022 Author Share Posted January 4, 2022 12 minutes ago, SemperFeist said: It’s a pointless statement because there’s a lot of players that it could benefit. You should try to win every game. Period. And the way the draft is today, the player selected at #7 may not be all that different than the player selected at #15. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SemperFeist Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 Even with a loss, in order to move up in the draft the Vikings would need Seattle to beat Arizona, Washington to beat New York, Denver to beat Kansas City, and Atlanta to beat New Orleans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worm Guts Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 15 hours ago, Ozzy said: Willis? I would consider it but not till the 2nd round. He is not worth a high 1st round pick, is not nearly developed enough for a 5th year Senior. And would be pretty pathetic to give up on Mond that soon but if they cannot even play him in Green Bay and play awful Sean Mannion then who knows maybe Mond looks terrible in practice. Real question is does Kevin Stefanski love Kirk Cousins as a QB? If so trade him to the Browns and I would maybe take on Baker Mayfield contract which is up in 2023. Save some money getting rid of Kirks contract. Hell could maybe get a 1st round pick out of it as well. I wouldn't consider taking another QB as "giving up" on Mond. Mond was a 3rd round pick. If the Vikings find a prospect they like better in the first round of this years draft, it shouldn't be a surprise, and they shouldn't be afraid to take him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swede700 Posted January 4, 2022 Author Share Posted January 4, 2022 41 minutes ago, Worm Guts said: I wouldn't consider taking another QB as "giving up" on Mond. Mond was a 3rd round pick. If the Vikings find a prospect they like better in the first round of this years draft, it shouldn't be a surprise, and they shouldn't be afraid to take him. Agreed. Just because I'd consider taking a QB in the 1st round (or even 2nd) doesn't mean that I'm giving up on Mond. Mond, as a 3rd rd pick, hasn't earned anything yet, so why should I not consider others. I think Spielman has made tremendous mistakes in the past by not continuing to invest in young QBs in the draft. Sure, he's picked up some as UDFAs, but it was 6 years between using any draft picks on a QB, which, IMO, is unacceptable, even if you think you have a starter. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SemperFeist Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 If the Vikings hire a new GM and new HC, no one that’s been drafted, signed, or developed will be owed time. Financially some will be granted more time than others, but any player drafted outside of the 1st round will have to earn their keep. Draft status will not protect them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vike daddy Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 1 hour ago, swede700 said: Agreed. Just because I'd consider taking a QB in the 1st round (or even 2nd) doesn't mean that I'm giving up on Mond. Mond, as a 3rd rd pick, hasn't earned anything yet, so why should I not consider others. I think Spielman has made tremendous mistakes in the past by not continuing to invest in young QBs in the draft. Sure, he's picked up some as UDFAs, but it was 6 years between using any draft picks on a QB, which, IMO, is unacceptable, even if you think you have a starter. yeah i agree. John David Booty didn't exactly work out..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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