LETSGOBROWNIES Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 So you guys are almost as old as me? I remember watching as we discovered the leather used to make footballs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucketheadsdad Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 http://www.espn.com/blog/cleveland-browns/post/_/id/23844/browns-get-unexpected-wake-up-call-in-england Well, dammit. It is about time that this team got a wake up call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 14 minutes ago, Bucketheadsdad said: http://www.espn.com/blog/cleveland-browns/post/_/id/23844/browns-get-unexpected-wake-up-call-in-england Well, dammit. It is about time that this team got a wake up call. Keep reading, they went back to sleep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vike daddy Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 Following a long-established tradition in Cleveland, quarterback DeShone Kizer has had a miserable rookie season. The Browns’ second-round pick was thrown into the fire after winning the starting job in training camp and preseason. His opening game showed promise. Cleveland lost 21-18 to Pittsburgh in Week 1 and the rookie QB went 20-for-30 with 222 yards, one touchdown, one interception. Since then he’s thrown two touchdowns, 10 interceptions and has a 49.0% completion percentage and 40.2 rating. Last week, Kizer was pulled after going 12-for-20 with two interceptions against the Tennessee Titans. Kizer’s numbers have been bad no matter where he throws the ball, but his worst moments have come on intermediate throws that require being able to read the defense and anticipate openings. On passes between 11-20 yards, Kizer is 13-for-41 with one touchdown, five interceptions and a 20.6 rating. Over 20 yards, he’s just 5-for-21 with the longest being a 38-yard completion. On throws between 1-10 yards, he’s been mildly effective, averaging 8.7 yards per completion and registering a 70.0 rating. The Browns’ two running backs are dangerous. Crowell and Duke Johnson have combined for 45 catches on 62 targets for 422 yards. http://www.1500espn.com/vikings-2/2017/10/kizers-chance-vikings-yards-catch/ i didn't realize he has been that bad... why again is he starting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 Has been awful, but it's not as if Tom Brady is sitting on the bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vike daddy Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 from the same article: The problem with the dump-off strategy is that Eric Kendricks and Anthony Barr have pinned down a number of quality pass-catching running backs. Alvin Kamara, Le’Veon Bell and Theo Reddick, for example, hardly put a dent in the Vikings’ defense. Football Outsiders’ advanced yardage stat DVOA ranks the Vikings 10th best in the NFL in the pass game against running backs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchdigger Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 This is one of the many reasons why you leave before 5am Thursday for a London game. Have mercy, Zimmer. 8 hours ago, Bucketheadsdad said: http://www.espn.com/blog/cleveland-browns/post/_/id/23844/browns-get-unexpected-wake-up-call-in-england Well, dammit. It is about time that this team got a wake up call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vike daddy Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 1 hour ago, ditchdigger said: This is one of the many reasons why you leave before 5am Thursday for a London game. Have mercy, Zimmer. meanwhile, Zimmer had his staff research the pre-game schedules of winning NFL teams in London games, and consulted with sleep experts, nutritionists, and therapists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruceb Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 9 hours ago, vike daddy said: i didn't realize he has been that bad... why again is he starting? Been scratching my head about that one, too. I have seen enough to be pretty sure that we need to find a QB next offseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchdigger Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 32 minutes ago, vike daddy said: meanwhile, Zimmer had his staff research the pre-game schedules of winning NFL teams in London games, and consulted with sleep experts, nutritionists, and therapists. Our front office probably did that too, but Hue made the schedule sooooo... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruceb Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 10 hours ago, vike daddy said: i didn't realize he has been that bad... why again is he starting? Btw: Ty for digging up the stats. My eyes were telling me he was that bad and its nice to have some proof to that validates what I have seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwibrown Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 I think we need to shuffle our oline. Lt bitonio LG Sterup Tretter RG Zeitler RT Coleman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 44 minutes ago, Kiwibrown said: I think we need to shuffle our oline. Lt bitonio LG Sterup Tretter RG Zeitler RT Coleman. There isn't a reshuffling that's going to replace a HOFer. We didn't have a viable backup tackle at the start of the season and we don't have one now. If anything I'd move Coleman to the left side as that's what he played in college and when Joe took days off practice, but that's just robbing Peter to pay Paul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwibrown Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 3 minutes ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said: There isn't a reshuffling that's going to replace a HOFer. We didn't have a viable backup tackle at the start of the season and we don't have one now. If anything I'd move Coleman to the left side as that's what he played in college and when Joe took days off practice, but that's just robbing Peter to pay Paul. I am not interested in the robbery of peter or Paul as much as I don't want a sprint to the QB from the LT. We are poked either way. But how are we less poked is the question. Drango appears riggid in his postue and appears slow footed. (Bitonio also played LT in college hence my suggestion.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NudeTayne Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 1 hour ago, Kiwibrown said: I am not interested in the robbery of peter or Paul as much as I don't want a sprint to the QB from the LT. We are poked either way. But how are we less poked is the question. Drango appears riggid in his postue and appears slow footed. (Bitonio also played LT in college hence my suggestion.) Also, in addition to Bitonio possibly being a good fit, Tretter played some tackle in Green Bay and hasn't exactly dominated at center. Perhaps moving him to left tackle may be worth a shot. Bitonio almost seems like he was made to be a left tackle, though, and wouldn't be surprised if he was better there than guard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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