swoosh Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 1 minute ago, TL-TwoWinsAway said: I felt you were so, so scummy at one point. I felt horrible when you flipped town. Yeah, I feel like you thought I was scum because of the Nacho/Matts vote. But it's important to remember when a town gets lynched, it's practically meaningless if the other person is also town. Your strongest read was Nacho being scum, so that's when you starting to suspect me (I think). I will say I absolutely hated the argument that you, Pickle, and Orca had on me that I was just following Nacho's vote. I was pushing ET/Pickle for the entirety of D2, only switching to Matts at the end because it was either Matts or Nacho. And both turned out to me town. And I was one of the main pushers of Josh at D1. Scum wouldn't ride scum so hard like that. If they're going to vote for one of their own, it's going to (typically) be when they think that person has no chance of being saved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tk3 Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 12 minutes ago, TheKillerNacho said: Ironically I'd give MVP to Tk3 despite him not even winning. squire12 would probably be my second choice. Dome saved the game in the end but was also AWOL before then, and kinda all over the place in terms of early reads. If you want to argue that I was TOWN'S MVP, I think you can make the argument (I think Raves, Squire, and Swoosh all can stake a claim also) But I personally failed my wincon, and frankly probably made the wrong move in the ET vote I should have voted out town at 5-2-1 and committed to working with scum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKillerNacho Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 Just now, Tk3 said: If you want to argue that I was TOWN'S MVP, I think you can make the argument (I think Raves, Squire, and Swoosh all can stake a claim also) But I personally failed my wincon, and frankly probably made the wrong move in the ET vote I should have voted out town at 5-2-1 and committed to working with scum they would've just killed you anyway 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TL-TwoWinsAway Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 1 minute ago, swoosh said: Yeah, I feel like you thought I was scum because of the Nacho/Matts vote. But it's important to remember when a town gets lynched, it's practically meaningless if the other person is also town. Your strongest read was Nacho being scum, so that's when you starting to suspect me (I think). I will say I absolutely hated the argument that you, Pickle, and Orca had on me that I was just following Nacho's vote. I was pushing ET/Pickle for the entirety of D2, only switching to Matts at the end because it was either Matts or Nacho. And both turned out to me town. And I was one of the main pushers of Josh at D1. Scum wouldn't ride scum so hard like that. If they're going to vote for one of their own, it's going to (typically) be when they think that person has no chance of being saved. I found the D2 votes very strange. I still sort of do. The timing of it all just felt rehearsed. And, of course, scum wouldn't do that so early, but, to me, it just felt so clear. Which is why I'm bad at this. And, oh yeah: sorry town. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKillerNacho Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 never trust a scummy boy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TL-TwoWinsAway Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 Hey @Tk3: real talk, for my sanity. Did you closely follow Nacho's early moves intentionally to make someone like me see something in them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raves Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 20 minutes ago, TL-TwoWinsAway said: I do have to believe that the MVP of all of this was Dome being able to decipher both Raves (who he has a history of playing with) and I (who he doesn't) at the end. I had a hard time believing that Pickle would just sacrifice himself at the end, and I made the only case I could come up with to justify it. Not only did Dome hear me out, he also gave Raves a thorough chance to explain himself, and ultimately pulled the trigger on making the right call. His read there was the reason we pulled it off. (At one point, Raves voted Dome... and I was close to following. Had Pickle jumped in and voted Dome there, scum would've won.) Great job Dome. (I thought that squire read thing was actually quite funny, as confusing as it was. I'm pretty sure I said, loudly, "whaaaaat" in my living room.) Although I voted Dome, I was never actually going to stay on him. I was just trying to get a reaction out of either you or Pickle to get clarification. Unless 2 people voted Dome before I was able to unvote he was never going to reach 3 votes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire12 Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 (edited) 16 minutes ago, TL-TwoWinsAway said: I have nothing against squire, but he rode me for 50+ pages, making (what I felt were) pointless arguments and appeared to be wasting time to waste time. I didn't think that was productive town-on-town stuff at all. Tk3 was fantastic. I should've noticed that something was off when he kept pushing for me to vote Orca and ignore Pickle at the end. Ultimately, he went for the win with Pickle, but Pickle's goals are beyond our understanding. your reasoning that Nacho was scum was discounted by a fair number of players. his Vote switch off josh was a town thing Josh voting for nacho end of day1 was exactly what he Josh wanted, the "supposedly distancing vote onto a teammate and you ran with that for D2. Scum nacho, TK3 and swoosh all voted together in unison....which very rarely happens until end game when scum need to likely as info is obtained. Yet you followed josh vote to "no vote" on D1. I was using your rational for Nacho/Tk3/swoosh being scum on you with the added element that Josh had actually flipped as scum when the other 3 were still unknown alignments I'll defend my push on you as a good thing to do. You may not have liked it, but it was not a bad play. But hey, you even voted me out, so you can take that as consolation Edited August 17, 2021 by squire12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TL-TwoWinsAway Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 Just now, Raves said: Although I voted Dome, I was never actually going to stay on him. I was just trying to get a reaction out of either you or Pickle to get clarification. Unless 2 people voted Dome before I was able to unvote he was never going to reach 3 votes. Well, I was really close to voting him too, feeling that you voting him is something scum wouldn't have done. If Pickle was lurking, that could've got messy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dome Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 9 minutes ago, The Orca said: True but he lynched all 3 scum i think and blocked a hit. Overall weight id say he played the best of town. Then Swoosh, but he got got early Excuse me? I lynched all 3 scum and names like 6 people who were not Beth. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKillerNacho Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 1 minute ago, TL-TwoWinsAway said: Well, I was really close to voting him too, feeling that you voting him is something scum wouldn't have done. If Pickle was lurking, that could've got messy. Pickle was definitely lurking lol 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoundrel Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 I vow to not use cheap tactics like making NSFL bets with TL any longer. I hate being vanilla and felt helpless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TL-TwoWinsAway Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, squire12 said: your reasoning that Nacho was scum was discounted by a fair number of players. his Vote switch off josh was a town thing Josh voting for nacho end of day1 was exactly what he Josh wanted, the "supposedly distancing vote onto a teammate and you ran with that for D2. Scum nacho, TK3 and swoosh all voted together in unison....which very rarely happens until end game when scum need to likely as info is obtained. Yet you followed josh vote to "no vote" on D1. I was using your rational for Nacho/Tk3/swoosh being scum on you with the added element that Josh had actually flipped as scum when the other 3 were still unknown alignment. I mean, a few players seemed to understand my views on Nacho, claimed he appeared scummy and even voted him on D2. I never voted Josh D1. I just found it interesting how you'd accuse me of being unwilling to articulate my points, and then would go off and find 10+ long posts of my articulation. You did this a handful of times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Orca Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 Just now, Dome said: Excuse me? I lynched all 3 scum and names like 6 people who were not Beth. Then clearly you get 2nd. As you can still tell I'm completely spaced out except knowing a Ranch hand needed some cowboy justice this game lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dome Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, TheKillerNacho said: Pickle was definitely lurking lol I was aware but wasn’t going to call it out in game, that’s cheap. He was online all last night when I was thinking about raves lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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