hanford29 Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 The worst part of the loss for me was the fact that an absolute piece of TRASH like Hill killed us. He can rot in hell as far as I'm concerned. As for the actual game, there are so many positives. We are going to be just fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candyman93 Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 23 hours ago, sdrawkcab321 said: I want to know why Higgins didn’t play I’m hoping it’s because they wanted more man to man beaters. However, that wouldn’t explain the lack of touches for DPJ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonanza23 Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 This loss sucked to hell. I promised myself I didn’t care if we lost, I just wanted a good game. Well we got a good game. We played them toe to toe. But we lost and I was pissed. If it wasn’t for the two fumbles and that really lucky td to Hill we could have taken it. But we didn’t. But we’re young and inexperienced and I think Stefanski will teach these cats to learn from it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candyman93 Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 (edited) Malik McDowell was our best graded defensive player. He did really well against the run. https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2021/09/browns-defensive-grades-vs-the-chiefs-who-was-elite-average-and-replaceable.html Edited September 14, 2021 by candyman93 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted September 14, 2021 Author Share Posted September 14, 2021 12 hours ago, candyman93 said: I’m hoping it’s because they wanted more man to man beaters. However, that wouldn’t explain the lack of touches for DPJ. Based upon what I saw, they loved their heavy personnel in matchup beaters (Njoku, Hooper, Jan), running a lot of double TE, with Jarvis and Schwartz on the outside to stretch those safeties to open up the running game and intermediate TE throws. I think that we'll see a lot of matchup personnel groupings on a week to week scale depending upon our opponent's strength. For example, I see the Steelers posing a huge threat with their elite LB/S play, so I could see us try to expose their secondary a bit more and use the quick game to open up running lanes. JMHO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candyman93 Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 Offensively, PFF gave 80 grades to Njoku, Schwartz, Conklin, and Baker was close except for the INT. Joel got the highest grade out of everybody in the 90’s. PFF was rough on Wyatt being in the 60’s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 16 minutes ago, MWil23 said: Based upon what I saw, they loved their heavy personnel in matchup beaters (Njoku, Hooper, Jan), running a lot of double TE, with Jarvis and Schwartz on the outside to stretch those safeties to open up the running game and intermediate TE throws. I think that we'll see a lot of matchup personnel groupings on a week to week scale depending upon our opponent's strength. For example, I see the Steelers posing a huge threat with their elite LB/S play, so I could see us try to expose their secondary a bit more and use the quick game to open up running lanes. JMHO I think there was also an effort to control the ball and TOP against the chiefs. I don’t mind a shootout against most teams, but not that one. I think other weeks you try to place faster and make teams keep up. Many won’t be able to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted September 14, 2021 Author Share Posted September 14, 2021 11 minutes ago, candyman93 said: Offensively, PFF gave 80 grades to Njoku, Schwartz, Conklin, and Baker was close except for the INT. Joel got the highest grade out of everybody in the 90’s. PFF was rough on Wyatt being in the 60’s. I'm 100% with you on Njoku. I'd pay him and lock him up. He's a valuable downfield threat and has turned into an absolutely fantastic blocker in this system as well. Conklin is great in the run game, but didn't do quite as well in pass pro as I'd have wanted to down the stretch. Schwartz showed that dynamic play-making ability and potential. He adds a different "blow the top off" dynamic that we didn't have last year. Baker played awesome minus 1 pass at the end. TBH, if Teller isn't playing at an elite level, we aren't going to pay him big money and will roll with a replacement level RG. We can't pay everyone, and I don't believe our nerds will pay a RG premier money anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 13 minutes ago, candyman93 said: Offensively, PFF gave 80 grades to Njoku, Schwartz, Conklin, and Baker was close except for the INT. Joel got the highest grade out of everybody in the 90’s. PFF was rough on Wyatt being in the 60’s. Chris Jones will do that to a fella. I expect a bounce back week against Vincent Taylor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted September 14, 2021 Author Share Posted September 14, 2021 Just now, LETSGOBROWNIES said: I think there was also an effort to control the ball and TOP against the chiefs. I don’t mind a shootout against most teams, but not that one. Absolutely; no question about it. And it worked like a charm for the first 2.5 quarters, and if Chubb doesn't fumble, it may work the entire game. As explosive and "unstoppable" as KC was, they only managed 10 first half points, and even that opening drive in the 2nd half used up 1/2 of the 3rd Quarter. If we respond with points there, it's 25-17 or 29-17 headed to the fourth, and I like our chances there. Just now, LETSGOBROWNIES said: I think other weeks you try to place faster and make teams keep up. Many won’t be able to. No doubt, especially with how this team is built on the EDGE and in the secondary. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DawgX Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 57 minutes ago, candyman93 said: Malik McDowell was our best graded defensive player. He did really well against the run. https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2021/09/browns-defensive-grades-vs-the-chiefs-who-was-elite-average-and-replaceable.html So... Mack Wilson still sucks. Malcolm Smith was also embarrassingly bad as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl-coaches-cant-get-physical-with-officials-and-they-shouldnt-be-pushing-around-opposing-players-either-040841801.html Like we said on Sunday, it can’t just be Harrison being punished. It’s both, or neither. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buno67 Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 4 minutes ago, DawgX said: So... Mack Wilson still sucks. Malcolm Smith was also embarrassingly bad as well. https://imgur.com/a/ca0Nimw Wilson was our 2nd best LB at stopping the run by PFF also to just defend Mack a little bit. His passing grade was when he got targeted when covering Hill and Kelce. But when you look at the stats pff provides. Mack allowed two catches on two targets. The catch by Hill, he is being credited for allowing Hill to catch a ball for -6 yards. His other Target was with Kelce and allowed a 17yard catch that went with 7YAC. I don’t know how thst comes to a pass coverage grade of 33. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 To add to the Mack discussion, it looks like he played 22 defensive snaps and was credited with 4 total tackles (2 solo, 2 assisted). I know tackles are limited in their value, but that’s pretty productive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtmmike Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 Chubb on a pace for 1600 yards 32 touchdowns excellent Schwartz on pace for a 1000 yards Landry on pace for a 1000 Njoku Resign him Defense you stink get 1 stop please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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