Kiwibrown Posted October 3, 2021 Author Share Posted October 3, 2021 He is wearing a shoulder brace, it isnt the brace, it's the shoulder, it is likely just floating around in his socket with damaged ligaments. His body is adjusting to it as moves around. Putting his whole throwing motion out. He likely needs a new throwing motion that hardly uses his left arm, that will both be hard to build, and will.make him a worse thrower. This isnt getting any better in the season, torn or stretched ligaments take an age to heal. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDBrocks Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 Congrats, y’all. Scary good DL. I’m actually surprised that we didn’t give up more sacks. pretty sketchy reffing today. I’m always going to be happy for Kevin Stefanski, and will be rooting for you guys the rest of the way. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie man Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 53 minutes ago, candyman93 said: If we can draft another stud LB, this defense will be top 5 next year. I agree but honestly maybe we’re just missing Phillips. I totally forgot about him Also Taki probably needs a small extension pay him with Odells money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie man Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 37 minutes ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said: Right, but when does he do that without ObJ? That play when Felton was wide open he was looking for OBJ. How many more of those are there? Like, this isn’t even an opinion at this point. The numbers back it. He’s a completely different player without him. Absolutely agree it’s not even arguable. You put it perfectly he’s a different player. Cinci last year will always been the perfect example. As soon as Odell goes down he turns into an efficient QB. idk who can afford Odell but if I can get a second from Green Bay or a 3rd and 5th they may need to make a move with Valdez out now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 Just now, brownie man said: Absolutely agree it’s not even arguable. You put it perfectly he’s a different player. Cinci last year will always been the perfect example. As soon as Odell goes down he turns into an efficient QB. And it wasn’t like a game or two later after adjustments, etc. it was literally the next 20 something passes and just kept going. Like, what tf are we even discussing at this point? Just now, brownie man said: idk who can afford Odell but if I can get a second from Green Bay or a 3rd and 5th they may need to make a move with Valdez out now. I’d jump so quick at a 3 and 5 lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonanza23 Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 5 minutes ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said: And it wasn’t like a game or two later after adjustments, etc. it was literally the next 20 something passes and just kept going. Like, what tf are we even discussing at this point? I’d jump so quick at a 3 and 5 lol. It’s just such a weird dynamic. I guess it all could be coincidental and circumstantial? What I do know even going way back to college is the huge majority of bad games from Baker all came when OBJ plays 🤷🏼♂️ But it could be something physical with Baker and it’s just coincidence. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candyman93 Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 22 minutes ago, brownie man said: I agree but honestly maybe we’re just missing Phillips. I totally forgot about him Also Taki probably needs a small extension pay him with Odells money We need a true MIKE so that JOK can just roam around and make plays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 11 minutes ago, Bonanza23 said: It’s just such a weird dynamic. I guess it all could be coincidental and circumstantial? What I do know even going way back to college is the huge majority of bad games from Baker all came when OBJ plays 🤷🏼♂️ But it could be something physical with Baker and it’s just coincidence. Totally, just a complete coincidence the shoulder injury 2 weeks ago has impacted the last 3 years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 Up: We won The defense Joe Woods Down: Who cares we won Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 45 minutes ago, Kiwibrown said: He is wearing a shoulder brace, it isnt the brace, it's the shoulder, it is likely just floating around in his socket with damaged ligaments. His body is adjusting to it as moves around. Putting his whole throwing motion out. He likely needs a new throwing motion that hardly uses his left arm, that will both be hard to build, and will.make him a worse thrower. This isnt getting any better in the season, torn or stretched ligaments take an age to heal. This is why you don’t make a tackle unless it’s at an out of bounds angle as a quarterback, period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonanza23 Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 Up: The D duh JOK duh A win duh Buckeyes won also duh Down: No I’m not down, we winned duh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwibrown Posted October 3, 2021 Author Share Posted October 3, 2021 5 minutes ago, MWil23 said: This is why you don’t make a tackle unless it’s at an out of bounds angle as a quarterback, period. yeah, I hate tough guy moments from QBs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hornbybrown Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 1 hour ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said: Maybe. Did he miss those layups without OBJ? Dude entered the game last week completing over 80% of his passes. Here we are now…. It’s not OBJ’s fault Baker is missing a wide open Hunt, Bryant, Schwartz. Just stop it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 1 minute ago, hornbybrown said: It’s not OBJ’s fault Baker is missing a wide open Hunt, Bryant, Schwartz. Just stop it. So what is it then? I’m still waiting for an answer that covers 3 years of terrible production. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 And for the slower ones amongst us, I’ve literally never blamed anything on OBJ personally. I’ve said that exact thing repeatedly. But when he’s on the field, Baker presses and the offense suffers. That’s the bottom line. Without him he’s throwing darts. Just admit it’s a failed experiment, no ones fault, and move on. This offense is better without him, and that’s not an opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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