twslhs20 Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 15 minutes ago, JDBrocks said: Cool, thanks! I just wasn't sure what you were looking for outside of moving on from Cousins. I don't think they need a full rebuild - they just can't build the rest of the roster up enough on the Cousins contract, and I don't see him ever going fully team friendly. KC has the same issue. They have money tied up in Frank Clark, and Tyrann Mathiew. One of witch is vital to the teams defense. They need better offensive line pieces, and have had to sacrifice this, in the past to accommodate the offensive stars. We are talking about a perennial SB contender. What every team should strive for. Our oline sucks. We have allocated resources to SS, RB, DT, QB, and WR. 8 needs a perfect team around him to succeed. I don't want to hijack this thread. My point is we have the GM in place. We are getting the HC. Now we need a systematic breakdown of the roster to put this team in a better position for future success. The short term 2-3 years is irrelevant as this roster currently stands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeithVikings28 Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 3 minutes ago, twslhs20 said: KC has the same issue. They have money tied up in Frank Clark, and Tyrann Mathiew. One of witch is vital to the teams defense. They need better offensive line pieces, and have had to sacrifice this, in the past to accommodate the offensive stars. We are talking about a perennial SB contender. What every team should strive for. Our oline sucks. We have allocated resources to SS, RB, DT, QB, and WR. 8 needs a perfect team around him to succeed. I don't want to hijack this thread. My point is we have the GM in place. We are getting the HC. Now we need a systematic breakdown of the roster to put this team in a better position for future success. The short term 2-3 years is irrelevant as this roster currently stands. Don’t forget tons of money allocated to LB. Barr and Kendricks need to go. I’m wanting to say the Vikings spend more on that combo than any team in the league for 2 LBs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RpMc Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 1 minute ago, KeithVikings28 said: Don’t forget tons of money allocated to LB. Barr and Kendricks need to go. I’m wanting to say the Vikings spend more on that combo than any team in the league for 2 LBs. Barr yes, Kendricks, no. He's still playing to the level of his contract. Barr is all but gone with Zimmer being shown the door and having his contract re-worked to have an out for this year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twslhs20 Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 4 minutes ago, KeithVikings28 said: Don’t forget tons of money allocated to LB. Barr and Kendricks need to go. I’m wanting to say the Vikings spend more on that combo than any team in the league for 2 LBs. Yeah not sure how I forgot Barr. Oof what a contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikings209 Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 4 minutes ago, KeithVikings28 said: Don’t forget tons of money allocated to LB. Barr and Kendricks need to go. I’m wanting to say the Vikings spend more on that combo than any team in the league for 2 LBs. Well Barr is pretty much gone on EK is actually on a pretty good deal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDBrocks Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 Barr's contract voids for this year, so that's not really an issue. Kendricks is earning every penny of his deal. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingsrule Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 17 minutes ago, twslhs20 said: KC has the same issue. They have money tied up in Frank Clark, and Tyrann Mathiew. One of witch is vital to the teams defense. They need better offensive line pieces, and have had to sacrifice this, in the past to accommodate the offensive stars. We are talking about a perennial SB contender. What every team should strive for. Our oline sucks. We have allocated resources to SS, RB, DT, QB, and WR. 8 needs a perfect team around him to succeed. I don't want to hijack this thread. My point is we have the GM in place. We are getting the HC. Now we need a systematic breakdown of the roster to put this team in a better position for future success. The short term 2-3 years is irrelevant as this roster currently stands. OL has had a lot of resources allocated to it. There are two first rounds picks, two second round picks and a third round pick. What more can you do? I think you’ve got to stay the course with the OL, they are a very young group. I’m ready to move on from Bradbury though if someone better can be found. The needs are on defense, it’s abysmal right now looking at all the players with expiring deals who will be leaving, most weren’t good anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikesfan89 Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 The Vikings can't depend on anyone from last draft class besides Darrisaw but if 2-3 other players make a similar jump as Osborn the cupboard won't seem so empty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeithVikings28 Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 21 minutes ago, vikings209 said: Well Barr is pretty much gone on EK is actually on a pretty good deal. The reason I want Kendricks gone is more from a team building standpoint. Kendricks was a catalyst for the division between coach and team on defense. We need young faces that buy into the system not try to break it down. He’s a whiner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twslhs20 Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 13 minutes ago, vikingsrule said: OL has had a lot of resources allocated to it. There are two first rounds picks, two second round picks and a third round pick. What more can you do? I think you’ve got to stay the course with the OL, they are a very young group. I’m ready to move on from Bradbury though if someone better can be found. The needs are on defense, it’s abysmal right now looking at all the players with expiring deals who will be leaving, most weren’t good anyway. I mean in terms of FA or trade. We need to find a way to be able to get top talent here. The draft isn't working as effectively as a stand alone. They still give up a ton of pressure. Between that, and 8 holding the ball too long, its a recipe for repeated problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swede700 Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 6 minutes ago, KeithVikings28 said: The reason I want Kendricks gone is more from a team building standpoint. Kendricks was a catalyst for the division between coach and team on defense. We need young faces that buy into the system not try to break it down. He’s a whiner. That's top 5 one of the most nonsensical posts I've ever read here. He's far from a whiner. He's one of the big picture leaders of the team and in the entire NFL. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
battle2heaven Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 2 minutes ago, swede700 said: That's top 5 one of the most nonsensical posts I've ever read here. He's far from a whiner. He's one of the big picture leaders of the team and in the entire NFL. the more logical point is that Kendricks is 30 and off ball LBs don't age well. So it might be prudent to trade him a year early rather then a year late. The other stuff is ridiculous. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swede700 Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 4 minutes ago, battle2heaven said: the more logical point is that Kendricks is 30 and off ball LBs don't age well. So it might be prudent to trade him a year early rather then a year late. The other stuff is ridiculous. I would much rather buy that argument than the one given. However, I don't think this team is in a position to trade Kendricks at this point, as they do need him on the field, as I think he'll be the most vocal player on the defensive side of the ball on a team that doesn't have any. Not having Zimmer may actually be freeing him to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kparty15 Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 25 minutes ago, twslhs20 said: Between that, and 8 holding the ball too long, its a recipe for repeated problems. Did you forget his name or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gopherwrestler Posted February 1, 2022 Author Share Posted February 1, 2022 id say the player control thing for Jim could have just been he wants to coach the players and not so much Baalke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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