FinSting Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 29 pages and still no one is explaining why Joe Mixon is #3 RB in the NFL. Keep sleeping on Mixon. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 3 hours ago, SkippyX said: unnamed sources I put the link in the post if you are talking about my one with Dak/Burrow. But the site is player profiles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrry32 Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 45 minutes ago, Bearerofnews said: He would take a huge hit if that happens. His whole thing is "winner" and "it" which is all make believe. There is no such things. Intangibles are ghost stories of sports. Except poise/clutch. Joe's selling point isnt his physical abilities/tangible talents. Other than being very accurate. Though he is proving to be surprisingly elusive in the pocket. No such thing as house money or not supposed to be here. Preseason projections don't matter once the season plays out. For all we know this is the only time he ever makes it. His defense and kicker helped immensively to get him here.. it's time to take center stage and prove he is what the hacks say he is. He led the NFL in YPA and completion percentage and was second in passer rating. If you think he doesn't have tangible selling points, you're nuts. He's a very good QB. But he's also a second-year pro behind a shaky OL about to face arguably the NFL's best pass rush. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SkippyX Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 Mixon is a very good RB. He's 3rd in rushing yards. He's 4th in yards from scrimmage at RB. (not counting hybrid Deebo) He's 27th in yards per carry. As a team the Bengals are 23rd in rushing yards, t-14th in rushing TDs, and 24th in ypa The Rams are 25th, 29th, and 25th. Advantage Bengals but is it a big advantage? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkippyX Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 @El Ramster ouch! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearerofnews Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 (edited) 39 minutes ago, jrry32 said: He led the NFL in YPA and completion percentage and was second in passer rating. If you think he doesn't have tangible selling points, you're nuts. He's a very good QB. But he's also a second-year pro behind a shaky OL about to face arguably the NFL's best pass rush. I literally just said his tangible selling point was accuracy. YPA is NOT a QB efficiency metric. He is 3rd in YAC/comp. Also didn't say he wasn't good. I have him 5th or 6th. But if he plays bad and they lose, it will 100% be a big negative mark. He is not immune, regardless what year it is or what he plays behind. His bad oline is balanced out by the best set of skill players in the league. What top 10 QB wouldn't be negatively impacted by playing bad in the SB and losing? Edited February 5, 2022 by Bearerofnews Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrry32 Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 7 minutes ago, Bearerofnews said: I literally just said his tangible selling point was accuracy. YPA is NOT a QB efficiency metric. He is 3rd in YAC/comp. Also didn't say he wasn't good. I have him 5th or 6th. But if he plays bad and they lose, it will 100% be a big negative mark. He is not immune, regardless what year it is or what he plays behind. His bad oline is balanced out by the best set of skill players in the league. What top 10 QB wouldn't be negatively impacted by playing bad in the SB and losing? Patrick Mahomes, for one. He has many tangible selling points. And YPA is definitely a QB efficiency metric. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearerofnews Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, jrry32 said: Patrick Mahomes, for one. He has many tangible selling points. And YPA is definitely a QB efficiency metric. I mean Pat took negativity from his SB loss. But his play wasnt anywhere near as bad as his numbers. He made some exceptional plays that his team let him down. But he still took criticism. YPA is definitely not an efficiency metric. Just like IAY and CAY arent. What is it measuring? Who throws it further more frequently? That isn't a barometer of efficiency. That is dictated by scheme, coverage, flow of the game.. that's just assuming depth of the pass and not how much of YPA was influenced by YAC or negatively impacted by drops. Edited February 5, 2022 by Bearerofnews Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrry32 Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 9 minutes ago, Bearerofnews said: I mean Pat took negativity from his SB loss. But his play wasnt anywhere near as bad as his numbers. He made some exceptional plays that his team let him down. But he still took criticism. YPA is definitely not an efficiency metric. Just like IAY and CAY arent. What is it measuring? Who throws it further more frequently? That isn't a barometer of efficiency. That is dictated by scheme, coverage, flow of the game.. that's just assuming depth of the pass and not how much of YPA was influenced by YAC or negatively impacted by drops. YPA is definitely an efficiency metric. It literally tells you the average yardage that team gained each time the QB threw the ball. You can debate whether it's a great metric for assessing caliber of play or not, but it's not debatable that it is an efficiency metric. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearerofnews Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 2 minutes ago, jrry32 said: YPA is definitely an efficiency metric. It literally tells you the average yardage that team gained each time the QB threw the ball. You can debate whether it's a great metric for assessing caliber of play or not, but it's not debatable that it is an efficiency metric. In text book definition of efficiency, sure it matches. Because it maximizes productivity per attempt. But ill never view quantity of depth passing as a true efficiency stat. It's also one of the least QB isolated metrics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 4 hours ago, SkippyX said: @El Ramster ouch! Thats a joke thats been going on for at least 15-20 years. Is this the first time youve seen it? Next you are going to be cracking up with: "I asked the Cowboys to be my pallbearers, so they can let me down 1 more time". Its old and unoriginal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viking Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 Got a feeling that this years SB is going to be similar to last years. Donald and Miller are going to eat the Bengals O-line for breakfast and I don't think Burrows Houdini escapes are gonna save him in this one the Rams D is too talented. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notthatbluestuff Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 1 hour ago, viking said: Got a feeling that this years SB is going to be similar to last years. Donald and Miller are going to eat the Bengals O-line for breakfast and I don't think Burrows Houdini escapes are gonna save him in this one the Rams D is too talented. Maybe - but I think it should still be closer for the simple reason that Stafford (good as he is) isn’t Tom Brady. Super Bowls were essentially regular season games for Brady; this is the first time on the biggest of stages for both QBs and we shouldn’t forget that. Both should make mistakes against good defenses. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WheatieMan Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 Rams will lose if Stafford implodes. He almost imploded last week. If the Bengals win, it’s a 17-14 or 20-17 type game. They will lose if it’s a track meet because the Rams D will make a play or two at the end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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