DudeWhat??? Posted March 6, 2022 Share Posted March 6, 2022 What's you thoughts on Jordan Davis's combine. Did it change any thoughts or views you had of him. If here is there at 20 and Keyion is there ...who do you pick? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armsteeld Posted March 6, 2022 Share Posted March 6, 2022 The talent is so deep in this draft. There's only 1 DL that big, that fast, that athletic, and even better, he produces on the field. The man wants to be dominant and puts in the work. This isn't no Daniel McCullers who had the size but lacked the twitch. Davis is quicker within 10 yards than JJ Watt and so many other top tier NFL players but he outweighs most of them by 50-100 pounds. He tested faster than Jarvis Landry, Jerry Rice, Anquan Boldin and many others. The Steelers have a need at DL. Davis can play over that front. His biggest issue is that they (Georgia coaching staff) were so deep that he was part of a heavy rotation. They also had 3 ILBs who rotated in & out. Long story short, I'd have no issues with Jordan Davis at pick 20 for the Steelers. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjfollett Posted March 6, 2022 Share Posted March 6, 2022 The question about Davis is ... does he play three downs? Man is obviously a massive run stopper. And maybe that is all you need to see. However, what is he doing for you on 3rd and 6? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwalker Posted March 6, 2022 Share Posted March 6, 2022 Davis had a combine for the ages. Just truly incredible what he showed. D.Wyatt also was pretty amazing. T.Jones was also very impressive. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
43M Posted March 6, 2022 Share Posted March 6, 2022 Davis may very well go top 10 now. Even if he doesnt, he will likely go before us. If he is there at 20...yes. No question. We are no longer in win now mode....so we can draft BPA at most positions. DLine is going to be a big need soon considering Heyward and Alualu's age and Tuitts future is still murky. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armsteeld Posted March 6, 2022 Share Posted March 6, 2022 9 hours ago, cjfollett said: The question about Davis is ... does he play three downs? Man is obviously a massive run stopper. And maybe that is all you need to see. However, what is he doing for you on 3rd and 6? The main attribute as a pass rusher to me is do you use your hands well. Davis does that really well in the running game. I see no reason why he can't continue to develop as a pass rusher. Georgia normally took Davis out on passing downs and used a 2-4-5 type scheme with Walker, Carter (will be a 1st round pick), or Wyatt as the 2 DL with Anderson, Smith, Dean, Tindall or Quay Walker at LB. They were so stacked smh. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jebrick Posted March 6, 2022 Share Posted March 6, 2022 He is making a case to be a 3 tech. I just do not trust that he can keep his weight down so he can be that effective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steeler Hitman Posted March 6, 2022 Share Posted March 6, 2022 11 hours ago, cjfollett said: The question about Davis is ... does he play three downs? I have been on the draft Davis train in round one if he is there from the beginning. If he is the BPA at #20, then by all means. I am not a fan of the QB's and I think you build or rebuild your team in the trenches on both sides of the ball. I have gotten away from the "Is he a three down player question, debate or argument?" I made an early comparison to Vita Vea. He is an even better athlete than Vea and that is saying something. He is looking more like Haloti Ngata in terms of overall athleticism than Vea. He can move bend, and has fast twitch. The man is as big as a house and can corner like a Mustang. The game has turned into a game of specialist anyway. He has his value in terms of taking second and five to second and nine. He also may surprise you if you try to throw on first down with getting in your face or driving a Center into the QB's lap as Big Snack would do on occasion. He can do things that most NG's can and can compete with many DT's. He will give plenty of OL's sleepless nights and headaches for four quarters on game day. P.S. The track at Indianapolis is traditionally slow. A man that size outran Patrick Mahomes in the 40 yard dash and showed the agility of a LB at nearly 6'7 and 360 + pounds.😲 Man is obviously a massive run stopper. And maybe that is all you need to see. I think many want to put this guy in a box because of his size and body type. He is naturally strong, but he is also freakishly fast and nimble. You coach up some pass rush skills. He will obviously have the bull rush down, but how does the average Center or Guard deal with a man who is that fast, agile, and strong? However, what is he doing for you on 3rd and 6? My rebuttal is that 3rd and 6 is now 3rd and 8 or 9 because he either helped stuff the run on first and second down or the QB threw an incomplete pass on second down. How do teams feel running a QB sneak on 4th and one with him over the Center? How much better is our run defense? The Steelers have led the league in sacks and have done well at generating pressure. What they haven't done is top the run! This guy shows that he can be more than the one dimensional run stuffer that everyone keeps trying to put him in the box for being because of his size and weight. 5 minutes ago, jebrick said: He is making a case to be a 3 tech. I just do not trust that he can keep his weight down so he can be that effective. Fair argument and with anyone that size that is a consideration. But right now, he is hungry. Pardon the pun! 😁 You are gambling on anyone that you draft for various reasons. There are rarely any 100% sure fire talents. You hope that the NFL coaching and maturation come along as well. He was at a mini NFL playing at UGA and for a coach who is a disciple of Nick Sabin's. There are questions with Tuitt after sitting out a year. Tyson is nearly 35. Cam is 32. They need to start getting the next generation of DL's. This guy is a special talent for his position. I am not suggesting mortgaging the house, but certainly if he is in play and one of the BPA when the Steelers draft, you take him. The only way you probably don't is if they sign a player or two in free agency. You don't need ten guys for six or seven spots. I do think they need to get some insurance for the DL. It is getting long in the tooth and they have not stayed healthy. Truthfully, Cam, Tuitt and Tyson may all benefit (staying healthy) with being rotated around with some quality depth. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwalker Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 I just did this mock. not bad. RD1 OG Z.Johnson, BC RD2 LB D.Clark, LSU RD3 RB J.Cook (versatile weapon), GEO RD4 OT D.Rosenthal, KENT RD6 CB K.Barnes, BAY RD7 SS B.Bolden, MIA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
43M Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 2 hours ago, mwalker said: I just did this mock. not bad. RD1 OG Z.Johnson, BC RD2 LB D.Clark, LSU RD3 RB J.Cook (versatile weapon), GEO RD4 OT D.Rosenthal, KENT RD6 CB K.Barnes, BAY RD7 SS B.Bolden, MIA Depends what we do in free agency obviously....but I wouldnt really like this draft. 1st pick is good. 2nd might be okay, but its hard to judge this pick without knowing what we did in free agency. I hate the 3rd round pick. In no way should we be drafting a RB that early. I get it, we need some depth behind Najee, but I would much rather target a DLineman or DB. Maybe even a WR who can stretch the field. I also dont see the point of drafting ANOTHER 4th round developmental OT. We just did that last year. Its realistic based on what the Steelers do....but I still wouldnt like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwalker Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 1 hour ago, 43M said: Depends what we do in free agency obviously....but I wouldnt really like this draft. 1st pick is good. 2nd might be okay, but its hard to judge this pick without knowing what we did in free agency. I hate the 3rd round pick. In no way should we be drafting a RB that early. I get it, we need some depth behind Najee, but I would much rather target a DLineman or DB. Maybe even a WR who can stretch the field. I also dont see the point of drafting ANOTHER 4th round developmental OT. We just did that last year. Its realistic based on what the Steelers do....but I still wouldnt like it. Yea, it's not my dream draft either. I guess I thought J.Cook gets used out wide and at RB so he might be worth it in a Canada offense, but the truth is I agree, and would rather focus on the lines. I'd love to see Z.Johnson and D.Wyatt in 1 and 2. I don't think they will, but I'd love it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warfelg Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 18 hours ago, jebrick said: He is making a case to be a 3 tech. I just do not trust that he can keep his weight down so he can be that effective. That’s my fear. That’s and ability to stay low. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armsteeld Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 4 hours ago, warfelg said: That’s my fear. That’s and ability to stay low. I want my 6'6 NT to play like he's 6'6. If OL try and go low on him, swim them. Davis has some very active hands in the trenches. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warfelg Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 7 minutes ago, armsteeld said: I want my 6'6 NT to play like he's 6'6. If OL try and go low on him, swim them. Davis has some very active hands in the trenches. And if the OL with better technique can get under and leverage him? Good night. Bring back Mt McCullers at that point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armsteeld Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 6 minutes ago, warfelg said: And if the OL with better technique can get under and leverage him? Good night. Bring back Mt McCullers at that point. You're automatically assuming that the OL can get past his 34" arms. You're assuming he's going to allow them to get close and get their meat hooks on him. In football, you teach your short guys to rip and your y'all guys to swim or club to knock OL hands off you. He's not a perfect prospect but he's pretty refined in taking on blocks. Georgia was so well schooled in understanding and attacking blocking schemes. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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