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Colts trade QB Carson Wentz + 2nd to Commanders for 2nd + two 3rds


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2 minutes ago, RTTRUTH said:

Edit: I’m betting Garoppolo. Nobody wants Love. And we have the track record dealing with John Lynch

Ballard also called about acquiring him after 2019. That Buckner deal was almost much bigger

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2 hours ago, Forge said:

What was missing, some within the team believe, was the type of direction the Colts got from the quarterback position in recent years, namely with Andrew Luck, Philip Rivers and even Jacoby Brissett, who despite struggling late in the 2019 season remained a deeply respected voice within the locker room.

In other words, with a QB in place besides Wentz, some believe, the gutting late-season collapse the Colts suffered would have never happened.

How about player/coach Byron Leftwich? 

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5 minutes ago, Jeezla said:

Wentz going from Colts OL to Washington's 😈

Feeling like you didn't watch Washington or Indy last year.

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6. WASHINGTON FOOTBALL TEAM (NO CHANGE)

LT Charles Leno Jr. | 81.1
LG Ereck Flowers | 72.0
C Chase Roullier | 84.6
RG Brandon Scherff | 73.7
RT Cornelius Lucas | 75.1

Washington’s offense should have been far better than it was this season given the platform the team was getting from its offensive line. There was no weak link on the unit, especially in pass protection, and even the players who replaced injured starters acquitted themselves well. The dynamics did shift a little with those injuries. Samuel Cosmi, Wes Schweitzer and Chase Roullier earned the three best PFF run-blocking grades, but each missed significant time, and their replacements were better pass-blockers than run-blockers.

 

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12. INDIANAPOLIS COLTS (DOWN 1)

LT Eric Fisher | 68.6
LG Quenton Nelson | 69.8
C Ryan Kelly | 56.4
RG Mark Glowinski | 71.1
RT Braden Smith | 81.2

The Colts just were never able to piece things together in pass protection well enough. They began the season with injuries, but even when their top players returned, they didn’t play to the peak of their powers. Quenton Nelson is one of the best offensive linemen in all of football when healthy, but he earned a 69.7 overall PFF grade this year and a 62.0 pass-blocking mark.

The Colts ranked 30th as a unit in pass-blocking efficiency, but they dominated as a run-blocking group, helping pave the way for Jonathan Taylor to lead the league in rushing.

https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-final-2021-offensive-line-rankings

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27 minutes ago, -Hope- said:

it's amazing because it's literally, point-by-point, the exact same chatter that accompanied his departure from philly. didn't take to coaching, wasn't mentally tough, was a poor teammate, played too much hero ball. at what point do teams finally stop thinking they can be the magical ones who fix all that?

I understood the Colts taking a shot, but at this point it’s time to call a spade a spade. 

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Even if it's a lateral move at best, the Colts would be winners in the QB leadership department with Jimmy. I think he is stays healthy he'll do fine there. Wouldn't have to worry about much drama. 49ers should just knuckle up and get what they can if the Colts are interested. 

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10 minutes ago, TecmoSuperJoe said:

Even if it's a lateral move at best, the Colts would be winners in the QB leadership department with Jimmy. I think he is stays healthy he'll do fine there. Wouldn't have to worry about much drama. 49ers should just knuckle up and get what they can if the Colts are interested. 

What is it you think Jimmy will fetch? Couple of mid round picks?

Agreed on the leadership part. You could argue Wentz is the better QB rn, but it's pretty marginal if he is. Both Wentz and Jimmy do some dumb stuff with the football.

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5 minutes ago, TheRealMcCoy said:

What is it you think Jimmy will fetch? Couple of mid round picks?

Agreed on the leadership part. You could argue Wentz is the better QB rn, but it's pretty marginal if he is. Both Wentz and Jimmy do some dumb stuff with the football.

As a fan I'd be fine with a 3rd and maybe a 4th/5th and taking on that contract. Seems fair to me. 

Regardless, Colts need to obviously keep looking for the long term triggerman even if they fetch him. I would have to think that anywhere Jimmy goes, he shouldn't be surprised that sooner rather than later his replacement will be acquired. Would suck for him to be in that situation again, but at the same time he's the last person on Earth to mope in mental anguish about it. That's the net positive for Jim. 

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Pretty impressive the way Wentz manages to walk that line of clearly not being good enough, but still showing enough flashes of upside, and having enough pedigree to still have teams willing to take a flyer on him.  Usually by this point in a career...a guy drafted that high like this has either become a "bust" and had to start reinventing themselves, relegated to stopgap duties, or settle into a backup role...or has established themselves as a quality starter.  Wentz is still managing to walk that tightrope between the two.  That takes talent, and luck.

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