Forge Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 1 minute ago, nagahide13 said: My point was that I don't see how they'd effectively use both players. If you want a Deebo style player then you should be utilizing Moore differently. Or just get Deebo and utilize Moore in the way that's best suited to utilize Moore and have two really good receivers? Most teams can effectively utilize multiple receivers. I'm very confused on your stance here. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nagahide13 Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 Just now, Forge said: Or just get Deebo and utilize Moore in the way that's best suited to utilize Moore and have two really good receivers? Most teams can effectively utilize multiple receivers. I'm very confused on your stance here. This is not confusing at all. They're similar players. They're both smaller guys that have excellent vision with the ball in their hands. Their both hybrid-esque and do their best work over the middle or in space. Neither of them is particularly big or fast. Neither of them particularly "stretches the field". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 7 minutes ago, nagahide13 said: This is not confusing at all. They're similar players. They're both smaller guys that have excellent vision with the ball in their hands. Their both hybrid-esque and do their best work over the middle or in space. Neither of them is particularly big or fast. Neither of them particularly "stretches the field". If you think that they can't be effective with one another r that the Jets aren't definitively better with that set up I definitely don't agree, but to each their own. I think that is overthinking the situation far too much (everyone has to have a specific role, specific place, etc) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsthomp2007 Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 24 minutes ago, Manny/Patrick said: He’s getting traded tonight, than the jets can run him to the ground and he will complain how he wants to play for a better team LOL!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nagahide13 Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 36 minutes ago, Forge said: If you think that they can't be effective with one another r that the Jets aren't definitively better with that set up I definitely don't agree, but to each their own. I think that is overthinking the situation far too much (everyone has to have a specific role, specific place, etc) They can definitely be effective together, but they'd be stacking skillsets. (Stacked on YAC, if you will.) If the Jets look at Deebo Samuel and think, "we need THAT." Well, they potentially have THAT already in Moore. It would make more sense to trade Moore and use picks you'd theoretically save elsewhere. I'm certainly not advocating giving him up for no value, I'd be more inclined to use his high value to try to save the #10 overall pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nagahide13 Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 (Not my favorite site) but... https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2021/receiving_advanced.htm If the Jets added Deebo, by 2021 standards they'd have 3 of the top 6 yac/r and 5 of the top 80. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OkeyDoke21 Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 On 4/28/2022 at 2:11 PM, nagahide13 said: This is not confusing at all. They're similar players. They're both smaller guys that have excellent vision with the ball in their hands. Their both hybrid-esque and do their best work over the middle or in space. Neither of them is particularly big or fast. Neither of them particularly "stretches the field". Are you saying Deebo is small? He's probably pushing near 230, at receiver. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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AFlaccoSeagulls Posted April 29, 2022 Author Share Posted April 29, 2022 7 minutes ago, NVRamsFan said: So to get Deebo Samuel, arguably a top 5 WR and Top 1 weapon in the NFL, the Jets thought this would do it: #10 for Deebo + #61 Whereas the Cardinals wanted Marquise Brown and paid: #25 for Brown + #100 Uhhhhh yeah I could understand why the 49ers wanted a little more than that lmao 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nagahide13 Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 2 hours ago, OkeyDoke21 said: Are you saying Deebo is small? He's probably pushing near 230, at receiver. He's 5'11". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soko Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 2 hours ago, OkeyDoke21 said: Are you saying Deebo is small? He's probably pushing near 230, at receiver. He also said Moore isn’t fast, lol. 4.3 guy. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nagahide13 Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Yin-Yang said: He also said Moore isn’t fast, lol. 4.3 guy. Yeah, that's fair. He does better work in the middle against zone, but Moore's way faster than Deebo for sure. Deebo isn't exactly... slow either, but it was dumb to say Moore isn't fast. 🤐 Point being that Moore and Deebo are very similar players, but obviously Deebo has pounds and Moore has better flat speed. Edited April 29, 2022 by nagahide13 being wrong 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Manny/Patrick Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 20 minutes ago, Forge said: Back on the sauce? Back to the South Carolina? Back to back w Drake? Finish the sentence bud Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHONUFF Posted May 2, 2022 Share Posted May 2, 2022 A half season of production and he wants to be paid like he's top tier. I expect a long hold out and a lot of injuries this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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